S2000 tows like a champ!
Originally Posted by rickycrx,Sep 13 2004, 03:24 PM
This is true...
And like I said in my post -- I have no doubt that his drivetrain will be able to handle it. That's not the "weak point" in what he's doing. You can be gentle enough to any drivetrain to not abuse it, even when doing the most difficult of things (like pulling his boat with an S2000). It's just that other parts of the car (frame, sheet metal, etc) will not hold up to it for an appreciable amount of time.
God forbid he has to make a 'panic stop' for ANY reason whatsoever. He WILL do damage to the car where the hitch receiver attaches if he has to go from 30-0mph as quickly as possible.
And like I said in my post -- I have no doubt that his drivetrain will be able to handle it. That's not the "weak point" in what he's doing. You can be gentle enough to any drivetrain to not abuse it, even when doing the most difficult of things (like pulling his boat with an S2000). It's just that other parts of the car (frame, sheet metal, etc) will not hold up to it for an appreciable amount of time.
God forbid he has to make a 'panic stop' for ANY reason whatsoever. He WILL do damage to the car where the hitch receiver attaches if he has to go from 30-0mph as quickly as possible.
The good thing about this hitch design is that the force during a sudden stop are pressed in the best direction of the mounts. For example, the 2 mounts on the bumper rail are right up agains the frame. If the bumper rail can't handle the force, the frame will help. The lower hitch mounts would be pressed INTO the trunk pan, instead of pulling away. I think the hitch could withstand much more decelleration than it could accelleration. Basically, during a stop, the bolts have very little load on them.
Originally Posted by allkingz,Sep 13 2004, 08:54 PM
I'm just glad no one has resorted to name-calling and forced a mod to jump in and lock this thread.
Was it okay for me to call the people in the other thread "dumb asses"?
Originally Posted by XSharp,Sep 14 2004, 12:20 AM
[QUOTE=s2kpdx01,Sep 14 2004, 05:05 AM]No offense to all the physics guru's in here, but many very smart scientists think inertia is very real and is caused by the higgs field.
http://hepwww.ph.qmw.ac.uk/epp/higgs1.html
http://www.hep.umn.edu/~marshak/elempart5.pdf
Go read some books about physics that aren't very technical and you will find out about this higgs field and how it isn't the new aether or anything like that. I do agree that in a completely frictionless environment you could move the boat with your pinky (assuming you were standing on the frictioned surfice!!
), albeit very slowly.
http://hepwww.ph.qmw.ac.uk/epp/higgs1.html
http://www.hep.umn.edu/~marshak/elempart5.pdf
Go read some books about physics that aren't very technical and you will find out about this higgs field and how it isn't the new aether or anything like that. I do agree that in a completely frictionless environment you could move the boat with your pinky (assuming you were standing on the frictioned surfice!!
), albeit very slowly.
Originally Posted by BlitzSRM,Sep 14 2004, 01:57 PM
that is the difference between scientist and engineer. engineers, makes assumptions that are good enough. much like the example below:
A mathematician, a physicist, and an engineer were asked to review this mathematical problem. In a high school gym, all the girls in the class were lined up against one wall, and all the boys against the opposite wall. Then, every ten seconds, they walked toward each other until they were half the previous distance apart. The mathematician, physicist, and engineer were asked, " When will the girls and boys meet?"
The mathematician said, " Never."
The physicist said, " In an infinite amount of time."
The engineer said, " Well... in about two minutes, they'll be close enough for all practical purposes."

A mathematician, a physicist, and an engineer were asked to review this mathematical problem. In a high school gym, all the girls in the class were lined up against one wall, and all the boys against the opposite wall. Then, every ten seconds, they walked toward each other until they were half the previous distance apart. The mathematician, physicist, and engineer were asked, " When will the girls and boys meet?"
The mathematician said, " Never."
The physicist said, " In an infinite amount of time."
The engineer said, " Well... in about two minutes, they'll be close enough for all practical purposes."



