SR20 swap into s2000?
Originally Posted by SP-1,Jan 1 2007, 06:06 PM
If you made an affordable LS1 kit, I'd get it for sure
Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.,Jan 1 2007, 08:39 PM
on the topic of the k20 swap, why in the **** would you want to waste your time doing that. the f20c and the k series are so similar that i cant see any advantage. one is not particularly stronger than the other, they both have the same basic potential etc. theres no reason to do a swap like that.
if the f20c had some shortcoming i could understand a swap but ths makes no sense.
personally i dont even understand why you would want to do a 2jz swap as people are making plenty of power with the f20c. i can appreciate the novelty of it but it really seems like you are just humoring yourself at this point playing the "look what i can do" game.
dont get me wrong, i can understand the effort that goes into doing off the wall swaps but again, whats the point.
if the f20c had some shortcoming i could understand a swap but ths makes no sense.
personally i dont even understand why you would want to do a 2jz swap as people are making plenty of power with the f20c. i can appreciate the novelty of it but it really seems like you are just humoring yourself at this point playing the "look what i can do" game.
dont get me wrong, i can understand the effort that goes into doing off the wall swaps but again, whats the point.
the reason why he swapped a 2jz in the s2000 is simple, while the f20c can get to the same power levels no doubt, the 2jz will do the same power level much easier and more reliably. simple.
Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.,Jan 1 2007, 08:40 PM
man, im not trying to be a dick but that doesnt look very good. it looks very "i just had a custom cb installed in my wennebago" 

Originally Posted by Mr.E.G.,Jan 1 2007, 08:39 PM
on the topic of the k20 swap, why in the **** would you want to waste your time doing that. the f20c and the k series are so similar that i cant see any advantage. one is not particularly stronger than the other, they both have the same basic potential etc. theres no reason to do a swap like that.
if the f20c had some shortcoming i could understand a swap but ths makes no sense.
personally i dont even understand why you would want to do a 2jz swap as people are making plenty of power with the f20c. i can appreciate the novelty of it but it really seems like you are just humoring yourself at this point playing the "look what i can do" game.
dont get me wrong, i can understand the effort that goes into doing off the wall swaps but again, whats the point.
if the f20c had some shortcoming i could understand a swap but ths makes no sense.
personally i dont even understand why you would want to do a 2jz swap as people are making plenty of power with the f20c. i can appreciate the novelty of it but it really seems like you are just humoring yourself at this point playing the "look what i can do" game.
dont get me wrong, i can understand the effort that goes into doing off the wall swaps but again, whats the point.
I know guys, its a little getto, hell i biult it in about 45 minutes, its just a temporary, i have a real clean one being professionaly done up as we speak, its gonna be sweet! I post pics of it when it comes in, hopefully this week. That one is just aluminum sheetmetal, covered with pleather! He-He
I guess I'll put my 2 cents into this thread. 50/50 racing asked for input and opinions on what motors to go with, instead he gets sarcasm and hostility. I think we all understand that opinions will differ, but some of you guys want to bash the guy for bringing innovative ideas to our forum.
I believe we have a great motor, but some people are so stuck on it being the one and only motor for our car. We already know the 2JZ can do the job, the K20 could be an option as well as some of the Nissan motors.
To: 50/50 racing thanks for bringing us the 2JZGTE powered S2000 and your willingness to take chances and be creative.
I believe we have a great motor, but some people are so stuck on it being the one and only motor for our car. We already know the 2JZ can do the job, the K20 could be an option as well as some of the Nissan motors.
To: 50/50 racing thanks for bringing us the 2JZGTE powered S2000 and your willingness to take chances and be creative.
Originally Posted by 2JZs2000Creator50/50racing,Jan 1 2007, 09:04 PM
I know guys, its a little getto, hell i biult it in about 45 minutes, its just a temporary, i have a real clean one being professionaly done up as we speak, its gonna be sweet! I post pics of it when it comes in, hopefully this week. That one is just aluminum sheetmetal, covered with pleather! He-He
we all do things to show what we can do.
you keep doing whatever you want, that's what this country is founded on, guys tinkering in their garage.
although not a swap I would so i can appreciate the craftsmanship it took to get it done, and I'm sure it was very difficult and took a lot of R&D
Originally Posted by BlownAP,Jan 1 2007, 08:45 PM
the k20a Kills the f20 in all motor performance when both kept at the same displacement, its all in the cylinder head, I guess you have never heard of a thing called iV-tec??
the reason why he swapped a 2jz in the s2000 is simple, while the f20c can get to the same power levels no doubt, the 2jz will do the same power level much easier and more reliably. simple.
the reason why he swapped a 2jz in the s2000 is simple, while the f20c can get to the same power levels no doubt, the 2jz will do the same power level much easier and more reliably. simple.
you make it sound as if the k series and the presence of ivtec is gods very own gift to the racing world. they are bad ass engines but dont think for a second that the f20c does not have the same flow potential. period.
there are built f series NA engines (very few) that make as much power as any k series i've ever seen. they are both very similar in strength, they both flow extremeley well, they both rev, etc. like i said they are too similar to justify the trouble of a swap.
additionally we are talking about a car (im going to throw out some drag racing times just for an anchor to add some numbers here) that most have trouble getting into the 13's with any great consistancy, while a select few (myself excluded) have the ability to consistantly hit 13's in the same trim as those that run consistant mid 14's. this would incline me to beleive, as many others allready do, that the s2000 is a car that needs capable hands, perhaps more so than cars that have less peaky engines.
with such a large variance in performance due solely to driver ability why would such an incremental change in power or potential power be ''worth it".
i think most drivers could never justify (other than preference or personal satisfaction) swapping in an engine that will grant minimal gains when there are large gains to be realized simnply through improved ability to extract such gains.
and those that do genuinely need the marginal difference in power output (namely those who race professionally) would probably find a pleasant compromise in working with a great engine that is available and sacrifice the k swap if for no other reason other than predictabliity and reliability.
in short, there isnt that much of a difference between the horsepower potential of the k series and the f20c. so like i said in the beginning, why would you want to do the swap?






