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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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gernby- if i understand you correctly my question is, is it possible that inline configured the ecu to only operate in open loop mode? Also when you say some RPM point is that a variable that the computer calculate based on other perameters or is it a known number?also could inline have set it up as if closed loop operates at wide open throttle and at partial throttle it ran open loop and used the vafc to correct it? how do you get a correct set up if the stock ecu is constantly trying to learn then the ecu will operate differently and in turn make the afc be inconsistent

please see my edit to my previous post as i HAVE NOT chaned the setting inline gave me
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by AusS2000,Oct 22 2004, 12:20 AM
The E-manage was fine for my set up. Contrary to your predictions my engine is still running fine. My upgrade to the AEM EMS hasn't netted me anymore power. It's just allowed scope for my future plans.
nice to see that you edited your post again
just for clarification I predict that your engine will blow not about power gain
drive it like it should and you will see what I mean

Who care if you made or lose power with a new EMS. Who is stupid enough to say that you will gain power by just changing ems Who care why you change your ems. Generally smart people would only change it if there is a problem or change it when when they upgrade not just in case of upgrade.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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MAKE SURE WHEN YOU GO TO GET THE CAR DYNOED... TAKE A VIDEOCAMPERA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS WILL BE AN AWESOME VIDEO, PLZ MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by honda9krpm,Oct 25 2004, 02:03 PM
just for clarification I predict that your engine will blow not about power gain
Care to put a time limit on that? I mean, you've been predicting it for ages now but it hasn't happened. I'm imagining you sitting in a dark room sticking pins in a voodoo doll of my car.

Why are you rehashing this rubbish? How about actually giving this guy some helpful advice if you're so knowledgable. The fact that even when you want to agree with me you try and turn it into an attack (your first post in this thread) by misquoting and misunderstanding me just shows what a defective unit you are. For pete's sake just put me on your ignore list and leave me there. You'd be doing everyone a favour.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by honda9krpm,Oct 24 2004, 11:03 PM
just for clarification I predict that your engine will blow not about power gain
drive it like it should and you will see what I mean
can you eleborate im not quite understanding what your saying? your telling me my engine is going to blow not because of power gain?? drive it like i should, how am i not driving like it should be?
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by white_S2000@16,Oct 25 2004, 02:16 PM
can you eleborate im not quite understanding what your saying? your telling me my engine is going to blow not because of power gain?? drive it like i should, how am i not driving like it should be?
Ignore him, he's just having ago at me because we argued about engine management and then his engine blew. Ever since he's been predicting the imminent demise of mine but it hasn't happened yet. So he takes any opportunity to have a go at me. Very sad.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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hmm is this a personal issue between you two if it is please resolve your peronable problems on PM. I already have the camera lined up im hoping to edit some video of my car now while im breaking it in.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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Contrary to your predictions my engine is still running fine.
AusS2000, you brought back the discussion not me. Take a good look and learn to read if you need to.

White, I was addressing AusS2000. I was just clarifing his statement. He's good at accusing me things. He got on my nerve during my difficutl time and I will definitely goes out of my normal way to return this favour. Ignore it white. As for his advices on ems I wouldn't even pay attention to it too much but that is just me

My engine stuffed up because of a spark plug failure. AusS2k tried to prove that it's the ems and tried to pulled up some stupid theories which he can't prove and still can't prove about the vafc. The truth was that he couldn't get it to work on his comptech system and blame my failure with the vafc when he did not know what the vortech has at the time. He then try to BS his way out of that.

If you ask for a recommendation for your car's ems, I would say 440cc injectors and emanage/AEM EMS. Sorry if this is aldready recommended as I have not been following this thread that closely.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by white_S2000@16,Oct 24 2004, 10:54 PM
gernby- if i understand you correctly my question is, is it possible that inline configured the ecu to only operate in open loop mode? Also when you say some RPM point is that a variable that the computer calculate based on other perameters or is it a known number?also could inline have set it up as if closed loop operates at wide open throttle and at partial throttle it ran open loop and used the vafc to correct it? how do you get a correct set up if the stock ecu is constantly trying to learn then the ecu will operate differently and in turn make the afc be inconsistent

please see my edit to my previous post as i HAVE NOT chaned the setting inline gave me
There isn't any way that they could force the ECU to run in open loop all the time without the ECU throwing some major malfunction codes. Not only would you have a CEL, but it would run like crap and wouldn't VTEC. The closest thing they could do would be to remove the ECU backup fuse, which forces the ECU to reload all the factory default maps every time the car is turned off. If they did pull the backup fuse just to make it work, that would be a serious bandaid.
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Old Oct 24, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by gernby,Oct 24 2004, 09:41 PM
Closed loop is the state that occurs while NOT at wide open throttle AND when below some RPM threshhold.
The factory ECU is always in closed loop. There is more to tunning than just fuel. The factory ECU doesn't make fuel adjustments very quickly, but timing adjustments are made on the fly.

BTW, is you ECU backup fuse still in place? If it is NOT there, the ECU will not learn to tune out the VAFC, but it won't ever run very well at partial throttle
For the first 10-20 minutes of the engine started every restart.

If they did pull the backup fuse just to make it work, that would be a serious bandaid.
That would be some crap of a thing to do. You'll know they've pulled it out by leaving the key in the ignition not turned on and openning the door. You wont hear that infamous annoying beep.
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