[QUOTE=hellspare,Sep 29 2010, 03:59 PM]because they were uncomfortable pushing their car, that's their problem, not the tire's.

 

Lol okay think of it this way. The more grip you have, the more room for error you will have before you break traction and start sliding. Less grip means you start sliding earlier. Gripping is easier to control than sliding in the case of an emergency. If we were talking about all seasons vs summer tires then the breakaway point would be worthy of discussion, but we're talking about the same tire here.

 

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Now I get your point(s). However, after re-reading your posts, I think you gave too much opinion in too little words. In other words, your 2 cents were worth like $20.00. That's what got me all confused.

Although I agree with what you are trying to do here, I think your opinion should be clearly expressed in view of the experience you have.
For example: the conditions in which you experience a tire's limits on a parking lot are not the same you encounter on the street. Although it is a very good starting point (you learn to recognize the sound they make while sliding), you cannot duplicate the dynamics involved in daily driving - speed, road and tire temperature, surface conditions, steering input, etc.

As you stated in your last post, Experience IS the key. However, experience with braking traction in a parking lot at 20mph (which is totally posible with the right steering or brake input) wont help much when you need a panic stop in the middle of a turn of a winding 45mph highway when a deer jumps in front of your car. Throw in some rain and you end up with a much more complicated scenario.

Suzukaboy asked specifically the difference between different sizes of the same tires in the same car. That's why some of the responding posts are so limited and directed to the obvious (tire size).

 

I've heard and seen such situations. It's called overconfidence. Happens at the track all the time. People get the "best" tires and procede to overdrive the car, getting themselves in mucho trouble.

 

Does anyone have a picture of these tires in stock sizes on OEM AP2 wheels? I'm wondering if they are square with the wheel or if they look stretched at all. Thanks

If you have a picture of a 225/255 setup that would be nice also.

 

they would be more pinched than stretched.

 

My bad. I looked at the tire Rack website and the 215/45 have a listed diam of 24.6 not the number I gave. The 225/45 are at 25.0 in. So the difference is only 0.4 in. I'm guessing that is not significant. Thanks for your reply.

 

Same with VSA. It is a system that has certain capabilities. But if you try to take a hard 90 degree turn at 80mph VSA will do what it can. But you're in the woods because you screwed up not because the VSA couldn't repeal the laws of physics.

 

I said that assuming the driver isn't an idiot driving like he's from FnF on the street. In an emergency when you have to swerve to avoid an accident, you're better off with more grip than less.

Even in the case of an overconfident driver, it's like saying you'd rather give him bald tires than new ones.

 

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