How do you save the summer and winter maps and still have the OEM map? I read that the Flashpro holds two. Can you save maps to a computer and reload them whenever?

 

Exactly. You save the maps to your computer and upload and download them from your laptop. I know your busy with work all the time but if you ever get the chance to make it out to a meet I can have one of my friends bring their flashpro and laptop to show you.

 

Yes you can save the maps to your computer and it takes less then a min to change between them with a laptop hooked up.

 

E-tunes for a NA car very little risk and worth the shot.

Any forced induction without a proper start up map and some what of a tune is walking on thin ICE if wanting to go the E-Tune route. I see the idea and understand how it works, but Forced Induction is not to be messed with in this aspect of it.

There are things that are not stated in this thread that are leaning people towards the wrong thing.

In other words you cannot throw a Trubo kit on your car and go do wide open pulls on your car without a tune and expect E-tunes to work for you. A car with a loaded base map and tune would work as you have something to start with and work from but even then its risky.

Going from nothing to FI with E-tunes very risky.
Going from a previous FI tune to E-tunes worth a shot and may be the new thing!

My .02

 

G and wade*, what are you basing your statements off of? Have you seen cars that have had bad etunes? Every name that I mentioned did exactly what you just said could not be done. I have proof that it works I have seen it on not one or two cars, but lots and lots of cars, SI's and S2000s. They were sent a basemap from evans, that evans set up for their vehicle from scratch(not based on anyones previous tune), that was extremely rich and retarded(in timing). They would go do there pulls and datalog. They would send the datalogs back and evans would revise it. This goes on for awhile until the driver is satisfied with the tune. Please if your going to bash on something show me some threads or stories where someone has had a bad experience with a Etune.

This is the experience that evans has with tuning s2000s-
http://dynos.evans-tuning.com/catego...arch_type/and/
https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/860...e-tune-review/
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/evans...ew-thread.html

Show me anyone locally who has that type of experience with the S2000.

*I think your both awesome guys, I just want to know where you are coming from and why you believe what you do.

**edited some of my dick remarks out

 

Doesn't Evans also have an in-house dyno for locals?

Wouldn't it be wise to ask him pros/cons?

Also, how does the FlashPro deal with wideband o2?
I know I had to swap out my o2a for the RSX one.
Tony attaches his dyno wideband when tuning.
Aftermarket injector voltage/offset is also difficult through e-tune.

 

So now I'm thinking I'll get both and you guys can put money on which one ends up being better. Of course I'll take 10% off the top to cover my expenses.

 

I am currently e-tuning with my turbo si. I am running a full race kit with the new borg warner EFR turbo. I have the first si in the nation with this and went straight to e-tuning. I am currently up to 15 psi and making high 400 if not close to 500 hp in my car with ZERO detonation. So for anyone saying you can't go from n/a to fi without someone tuning it in person is a false statement.

 

Wow this thread blew up.

Some things to consider about an eTune. (Especially for FI)
1. Evans isn't going to tune just any FI kit. He is very specific about which kits for a good reason. He will only tune on kits he has tweaked and tuned to perfection in person.
2. Evans obviously uses one of those verified tunes as a base map and adjusts multiple variables to very conservative settings to start out. (Just like any other tuner out there. UMS included.)
3. I went from NA to FI running 10-12PSI on a Full Race setup on an etune with no issues.
4. This is not for someone who lacks confidence in their ability to monitor and look for faults. The first 1500 miles are when most of the head aches are going to show up, and most of them aren't going to be tune related. Tune related issues will be apparent right away from the start up, idle, and first wide open pull.
5. Yes you have to spend seat time to get optimal results. Yes the first 1-2 revisions might be troublesome (not damaging to your setup).
6. The revisions typically take less then 12 hrs for a new one. And it is a very easy process as described... (1. 3 Wide Open Pulls 2. 60 Seconds Idle 3. 15 Minutes HWY Driving 4. 15 Minutes Street Driving.) So it takes 30-45 minutes of your time to do it right, and it will take a few sets of these to get it just right. (Big deal your driving an s2000, you should be having fun.)

With all of the above said, in summary: Evans eTune is an excellent solution for FI at an affordable price. The biggest "gotcha" is item number 4, in my opinion. Also don't even bother considering any of the above without a wideband. Simply foolish.

It is an absolute no brainer for NA because of the low risk, price, and OUTSTANDING customer service. However, there are some people who prefer to just drop their car off and not think about it and get it back a faster machine. I have put myself in both positions and I understand the pros and cons of both. There is nothing wrong with either choice, just keep in mind Kirk that you will learn alot, and it's really not as hard as you might think. Definitely spend some time with someone at a monday meet and check it out for yourself.

 

Ben did you even read what i wrote? Brandon just re-stated what i just said in about 40 more sentences. I never once said motors are blown and this thing sucks balls so i dont know where your coming from getting all defensive. I was just stating you cant just go out and get this E-tune and it all of a sudden tunes your car for you, which a lot of people lead others into thinking. Im sorry if i hurt your feelings about E-tunes.