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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by composite guru
Originally Posted by san2000' timestamp='1353400411' post='22161478
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Do the Renault guys get anything? There was a lot of whingeing from Horner and Newey about the 5 year old alternator problem that Renault haven't solved.
I'm not sure, they just supply the engines so its a separate entity. Maybe Renault have their own bonus scheme but not out of the FOM pot. That's the down side of only supplying engines I suppose.
cg - is SV as annoying in 'real life' as on TV?
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Hi mate, far from it. He's a bl00dy good laugh specially at our debriefs and parties.
He's very passionate about racing and obviously very focused when at the circuit so can come across arrogant but he's not like that in normal situations.

The reason why Brits hate him is because he's German, if he was British everyone would be rooting for him. He is no MS, he has a personality out of the car. />
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I don't hate him for anything other than the rod he makes for his own back by doing stupid things. Ever since he drove into Webber, then did the same to Karthikeyan, then ran Alonso off the track and then tried a similar thing with Lewis on Sunday.

He's not on his own - I don't like Alonso either and Hamilton has done plenty of running people off the road too.

I don't blame them all that much because watching the Junior Formula's, running people off the track seems like part of the rules. Watching the Segment on the Young Brahbam bloke, he was challenging for the lead, got ran off the road 3 times and the Stewards did nothing.

Says it all really.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultra_Nexus
, then ran Alonso off the track
Alonso did the same to Vettel the year before on exactly the same corner at Monza but didn't get a penalty.
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPnQC3eEYqg[/media]
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 05:15 AM
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, then ran Alonso off the track
Alonso did the same to Vettel the year before on exactly the same corner at Monza but didn't get a penalty.
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPnQC3eEYqg[/media]
Err, no.

Sky actually reviewed this in detail - Alonso left Vettel enough room - 1 car width.

Vettel didn't leave Alonso enough room.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 08:07 AM
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The revisit seemed to go pretty well actually from what all of the news and media said. I see more and more Americans getting into it this year. Silverstone and Canada was also given a prime time spot on one of the major stations here. I think more people would enjoy it if there were better commentators like sky and BBC. I think the American ones are too old and not spirited enough.
I read somewhere that F1 is going to be on NBC next year, instead of the "Speed" network whatever that is. So presumably that means more Americans are likely to see it.

I believe that the largest problem is that most GP's happen at weird hours here in USA.
I guess so. Somebody had suggested more races should be on in the evening, where more people are watching TV. So if you moved the European races to the evening, then that would mean middle of the day for the US.
FOX I believe carried Silverstone and Canada this year but I dont know about Austin. I watched it via speed. NBC would be GREAT!

If it isn't a large inconvenience for the European circuits that would be GREAT as well haha.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 10:04 AM
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It wouldn't be too much of an inconvenience for us, but it will depend on where Bernie sees the growth sector for the business. If that is the Far East then I can't see things changing soon.
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Ultra_Nexus
Err, no.

Sky actually reviewed this in detail - Alonso left Vettel enough room - 1 car width.

Vettel didn't leave Alonso enough room.
100%. Alonso definately left room. There was a cars width for Vettel. 2012 was a different story. Vettel ran Alonso off the track. I don't like Vettel's style of driving. He is over aggressive especially on the starts chopping people up.

Here's the two episodes back to back

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73HG73bHE3c[/media]

Really enjoyed Sunday's GP in America. I thought the circuit would be a no overtaking one but was pleasantly suprised. Button shone for me with those excellent clean up the inside overtakes. Hamilton/Vettel scrap was fantastic. My heart skipped when I thought Vettel was going to move again on Hamilton during the overtake. Thankfully he thought otherwise

Classic Vettel overtaking:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx9zIQvrdZU[/media]
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 10:48 AM
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I like vettel despite him being a hunn

He's probably the most likeable of all the drivers we've discussed.

I struggle with Alonso cos he is such a dour c@#t
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 12:08 PM
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I want Alonso to win as he has been the best driver this year and rarely whinged about his car/turning the tyres on or anything else. He just gets on with it. I don't think Vettel deserves a 3rd championship... yet.


However if anyone has a dubious record it's Fernando. Complicit with McLaren stealing Ferrari's secrets and then dropping the team in it when he fell out with them, Piquet gate - does anyone really believe he didn't know what was going on? And the thoroughly unsportsmanlike gearbox penalty this weekend, which whilst legal, really did the sport no favours at all - poor show Ferrari.

And finally CG - congrats on the third championship. Thoroughly deserved. My S2000 spark plug cover is still being worn on the car with pride
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Old Nov 20, 2012 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassoctopus
And finally CG - congrats on the third championship. Thoroughly deserved. My S2000 spark plug cover is still being worn on the car with pride />
Cheers. I can't believe I worked through all the sh1t Jaguar years to eventually win 3 world championships in a row.
Red Bull is a great place to work.

Glad the cover is still going strong.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by composite guru
Cheers. I can't believe I worked through all the sh1t Jaguar years to eventually win 3 world championships in a row.
Red Bull is a great place to work. />
What was different about the Jaguar years (if you're allowed to say)? Button in an interview recently said of his old team (i.e. Mercedes) something like "I think they have a lot of managers now", which is typical corporation BS - lots of money wasted on things that don't seem to benefit the results, which I'd bet was the case with Jaguar/Ford.
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