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Old Jun 3, 2023 | 10:41 PM
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Mr Bean on BEVs. I agree https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...rowan-atkinson
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Old Jun 3, 2023 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by tjockhult
It's a bit of a vague article, he might be right but there aren't many facts in there. I read a report years ago which contradicted the Volvo one, I don't know which is correct but conjecture won't decide that either way for me. We know all too well the UK relies too much on fossil fuels

Regardless I didn't buy mine on some eco mission, I needed a family car which I struggle with as they are so shit to drive usually. I tried the M3, too uncomfortable and not a very fun car.

This is attempt 2

It is cheap to run. That example I posted of less than £2 for 80 miles beats any ice I would think and I paid ice money for mine. I would not pay £37k though

Petrol is about 650p a gallon now so I achieved around 287mpg in terms of cost. That will be one of my better days admittedly but the point stands

it is pleasant to drive.

The dog loves it

It's limited range does annoy but only rarely and I have less comfortable alternatives

It's had a pollen filter so far, brake fluid this year I guess. Will be on 17-18k by then I think

Qué Sera Sera

Can't recommend the Honda at its current price. Would I buy another BEV? For sure I would consider it. They are a lazy steer.


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Old Jun 7, 2023 | 01:03 PM
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A full month on IO

180kwh, £13, over 600 miles. Ok you should add the 80p a day tax too which is £25.. so £38 total

In reality it's somewhere in between as we now use the dishwasher and washer overnight all the time.. no bill from octo yet

Keep thinking of swapping to a DC5



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Old Jun 7, 2023 | 10:03 PM
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If you do that, at least your bike ear plugs will have a 2nd use case.
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Old Jun 8, 2023 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Nottm_S2
A full month on IO

180kwh, £13, over 600 miles. Ok you should add the 80p a day tax too which is £25.. so £38 total

In reality it's somewhere in between as we now use the dishwasher and washer overnight all the time.. no bill from octo yet

Keep thinking of swapping to a DC5
When the bill comes you will see the actual cost and see what your consumption is pre 5% VAT split between economy rate and standard.

My last bill was almost exactly 50/50 on costs which worked out to 11.78p/unit +VAT overall. Of course helped by the house batteries I have.

I let management run dishwasher/washing m/c whenever she wants makes little difference with my batteries. Tumble drier is 'check first' trouble is leaving washing wet for any period of time can be bad. August I will probably jump to 'Intelligent' from 'Go'. Same economy rate. 15% higher standard rate. I may play some games with the GSHP to cook hot water a bit later though still within the economy hours. 'Go' economy ends an hour earlier than 'Intelligent'.


Back on topic:
I bought the 'e' as a long term local 'city' car £32k new. The city is East Anglia. I hear stories those who actually live in cities without their own charger have a tough time.

Depreciation was good for the first 18 months but now it isn't. I wouldn't expect we have seen the last of the cost of electricity varying so we will see. A few months shy of the first MOT my running cost has been for fuel £162.05 for 5.5k miles almost all charging at home on 'Go' tariff so 3.4miles/unit although the car says 3.9 miles/unit. Average range when recharging to 100% is 121 miles (low 101 high 148.)

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Old Jun 8, 2023 | 02:07 AM
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If you had a monster inverter or limited your charger to pull less could you charge from batts and run foc from solar? I realise you would need excess, unlikely with your setup

Anyway, house batteries do seem a solid investment in the current, dodgy, energy market.

I got a new battery for the e, doubles range
with the 17s and lead boots my range is more 80-105

there is a crashed e being recycled by one of these eBay breakers ATM and a launch car going for £19k private with not many miles. That is a £20k discount on RRP


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Old Jun 8, 2023 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by unclefester
If you do that, at least your bike ear plugs will have a 2nd use case.
Sorry dude.. can't hear ya

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Old Jun 13, 2023 | 08:43 AM
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Well , we have pulled the trigger on a Renault Megane tech e !

Primarily because she likes the seat , fit her bum , door handles , generally interior esp fabric dash

must admit it’s nice to drive !
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Old Jun 13, 2023 | 10:04 AM
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They are very pleasant to mooch about in for sure. I got my android auto wireless set up and a wireless charger which fits the centre console
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the only challenge is remembering my phone. Connection can seem laggy at times, it's funny if you dictate an SMS it reduces the fan speed so it can hear you, then turns it back up



On intelligent octo with my borderline totalitarian regime we reduced our AVG kWh cost to 22p so a long way under what we were paying (32p)

the car accounts for a chunk, about 6kwh/day or 180 a month, the rest are the dreaded kitchen appliances which don't beep no more





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Old Jun 13, 2023 | 11:44 AM
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My latest bill bit of a curate's egg really.
Pool turned on and ASHP kicked off heating from ambient to 28C on May 17, Since 7th June got a submeter reading the pool feed from the main supply so at least I can start to monitor but there are many variables e.g. is pool covered? when used? what is weather? As it does consume a lot then it is worth monitoring? If not, not What I can see is that since sparks installed the submeter the cost of the pool has been +/- 2 units/day since Friday's good weather started. Single digits two days before that, the tail end of that period of cold northerlies when the rest of England was basking.

7.14p/kWh 540.8 kWh £38.621
33.44p/kWh 910.0 kWh £304.311

Total consumption 1450.8kWh @ 23.64p/kWh † £342.93
Standing Charge 31 days @ 35.86p/day £11.12
Subtotal of charges before VAT £354.05

I stiffed 'em £250 single payment DD can stay at £100 for now.

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