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Old Aug 19, 2022 | 10:36 AM
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Took the e to Warwick, 77 miles or 80 ish with a detour via Caffeine and Machine (which was dead btw)

Arrived with about 10% so quite bad (if you hoof these cars they drink a bit.. hoof meaning >nsl)
put it on charge on Bee Pee...

Car said I ain't chargin.. BP said you are..
I left it..

never charged..

a call to then later got it working. Twatty devices

26kwh apparently. So £10 in Bee Pee money, £7.28 at home (way down), total round trip of say 170-180 miles for £17 ish

used a lot less on the way back, arrived with 35% left as was a lot of traffic so no lead boots

moral? Trust the e, not bee wazz
Very comfy for 3 + dog but laddo in the back is 10 so...

Mate talked about his XC90, a failed clutch between motor and engine cost him £3k which Volvo paid half of.. the complexity of hybrid. Not very old or high miles.









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Old Aug 25, 2022 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Nottm_S2
You need to reset expectations as much as Honda do
a base ice Fiesta will set you back £20k+
Cost a lot more in fuel (double or more at a guess)Cost to tax (£dunno)
Cost more to service
At £31k when I ordered it was steep. At £37k it's stupid. Whether it still adds up versus an ICE as a TCO I don't know, many variables
Suffering range anxiety jitters I sold my 'e' on carwow for £27.5k with sub 4000 miles 2yo. Another main dealer had a 5 month old Skoda Fabia DCT less miles immaculate £19.5k. Backed out when (a) planned 130 mile trip and back wrt known good chargers e.g. Instavolt, Gridserve (b) realised a lump sum gain of £8k would have cost 12.5% pa interest due to running costs. Fabia £190 tax £200 service £650 petrol. 'e' no tax 5yr service plan bought with the car and electricity on Octopus Agile (now Go) under £50 for my approx 2000 miles. Both cars similar depreciation to date helped of course by the Govt grant when I bought the 'e' for £32k with about £1k extras (which of course you don't get back but they can help with sales appeal).

'e' by gum til ah catch me death o cold (see words of Ilkley Moor Ba t'at)
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Old Aug 25, 2022 | 12:21 PM
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It's a big difference both ends

my stocky S2000 costs £295 tax (I think)

£200 insurance22mpg and 1k miles.. is £8 a gallon reasonable? £363

Service I do myself, probably average £100

£950 so a quid a mile


e6k miles£0 service (a pollen filter)

£0 tax3.6 m/KW AVG.. this year that cost prob AVG 23p?
(Now 27p, god knows what tomorrow) so 1,666 kWh x £0.23 = £383 'fuel'
insurance is £250 I think

total £623 so about 11p a mile?

And it is such a nice little thing to shoot abaaaht in.. it's no s2000 but it shits all over a kumkwat

Think I will go for some solar panels to cut it even more







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Old Aug 26, 2022 | 12:41 AM
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Interesting way to look at the numbers. Smile factor values! My 'e' 2,000 miles at 2.5p/mile. Skoda Fabia DCT est 50p/mile. Your 'e' 11p (more miles). S £1/mile.

Although who knows what might happen to fuel costs either way (petrol or electricity). I am on a 'Go' tariff fixed at 7.5p low rate until August 2023.

2kWh peak solar panels and inverter would be ~£5k here in sunny Norfolk. Not a dependable source in winter though. ROI?!
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Old Aug 26, 2022 | 12:35 PM
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I am paying 27p Rog.. std variable arse in the air no lube tariff
I will crunch some numbers.. in for an estimate with a local firm

For a more like for like compare
Err indoors kumkwat
£220 tax£120 ins35mpg (it's about the same weight supposedly but feels twice it)
For 6k it's 171 gallons of squirt £1371
Service was maybe £100 parts again, I did plugs, coolant, oil, air filter, rear pads
£1800 ish? 30p a mile?

And awful in every way. Air con fails in all of these cars, handling bad, pig iron construction
Underpowered, horrible. But big






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Old Aug 28, 2022 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Nottm_S2
I am paying 27p Rog.. std variable arse in the air no lube tariff
I will crunch some numbers.. in for an estimate with a local firm

For a more like for like compare
Err indoors kumkwat
£220 tax£120 ins35mpg (it's about the same weight supposedly but feels twice it)
For 6k it's 171 gallons of squirt £1371
Service was maybe £100 parts again, I did plugs, coolant, oil, air filter, rear pads
£1800 ish? 30p a mile?

And awful in every way. Air con fails in all of these cars, handling bad, pig iron construction
Underpowered, horrible. But big
Just realised I omitted insurance for mine - adds 10.5p/mile to both, so 'e' 13p/mile Fabia 60.5p/mile. That leaves our e's about the same ish.

£220 tax £120 ins £40 MOT £1400 diesel £1800 service dealer labour £100 parts = £3700 for 6k miles so approx 60p/mile*.

*omitting steam clean / decontamination / personal insurance for the hostile-to-sentient-creatures environment.

Interestingly the Fabia at my 2k miles and your Quashqai at 6k miles cost about the same/mile.
Except the latter would probably no longer be depreciating by much I am guessing.
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Old Aug 28, 2022 | 10:22 AM
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no, the kumkwat is thirsty at c35mpg but worth about £50 (if you are stevie wonder and suffered loss of sense of smell from da covid)

i will get her something else next year, Mazda 6 touring, something i can throw shit in the back of and not care

its as per my original guesswork so far, the e is pricey to buy (much worse now) and very frugal to drive.. also really rather nice to drive
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Old Sep 2, 2022 | 08:00 AM
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Did Brum and back, 116 miles round trip on a single electron cloud.. had 10% left when I got back.

Struggling to find a solar installer not inundated

Considering getting rid while the market is daft and energy is like hen's teeth, may as well run a C63 for a bit
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Old Sep 5, 2022 | 10:01 PM
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Took the wheels off for a clean and inspection


It all looks mostly normal behind there though you can see where the cash went on the suspension


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Old Sep 6, 2022 | 02:08 AM
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Not that we buy owt from China but MG's new BEV comes in under £26k range >200 miles.

Of course if you want heated seats satnav all bells and whistles £32k.

Compared with Honda 'e' now what £36k?
Still looks cuter


This colour only available in top of range spec


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