Any gun nuts here?
[QUOTE=OCMusicJunkie,Mar 3 2007, 08:00 PM] Obviously I've never been in a situation where I needed to fire upon someone to stop an attack, but just out of curiosity... most of your post talks about creating enough blood loss to stop an intruder. Doesn
Originally Posted by sireousrex,Mar 3 2007, 05:11 PM
I will refrain from going into details for obvious reasons, however I witnessed first hand that pain and the blood loss of 15 9mm rounds center mass into a determined attacker is not enough to stop that person from closing a 21' distance and striking you with a sword or knife. Even if the end result is incapacitation or death of the attacker, extreme pain and blood loss is not enough to save you from that individuals initial attack. Most confrontations are within a closer distance than that, and are usually over in mere seconds. A CNS shot is all that could protect you in this case. Practice your "failure drills" (two center mass and one head shot) until they are second nature.
I always practice 2/1 drills at the range from different distances. I really hate the 10-round limit here in CA... in a panic situation, especially with more than one attacker, it's just not good...
Those 15rds were split between myself and my partner. It's not a position I hope to find myself in ever again either. However, that situation made me take a hard look at what I carry to protect myself and my family. At work, my hands are tied and I have to carry the 9mm they give me. When it comes to personal and family defense, I carry 230gr hydra-shocks made by Federal. I am not an ammunition expert by any means, but in this case, I know what does NOT work too well and have chosen to go with something bigger.
You guys got off 15 rounds in the time it took him to go 21 feet? That's just a few seconds.
I know you don't like the 9mm but you got to admit, a perp closing in on you that fast would take a perfectly placed shot or a lot of luck with ANY caliber handgun cartridge. 00 Buckshot... now that's a different story.
here's my 10mm load. The FBI loads were mild compared to these http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/p...?products_id=35
my 9mm load
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/p...products_id=120
I know you don't like the 9mm but you got to admit, a perp closing in on you that fast would take a perfectly placed shot or a lot of luck with ANY caliber handgun cartridge. 00 Buckshot... now that's a different story.

here's my 10mm load. The FBI loads were mild compared to these http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/p...?products_id=35
my 9mm load
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/p...products_id=120
Originally Posted by Ubetit,Mar 3 2007, 11:14 PM
You guys got off 15 rounds in the time it took him to go 21 feet? That's just a few seconds.

This goes without saying to most here I am sure but, I think just as important as round selection is practice practice practice. In a hot situation you won't have time to sit there and line up the shot with the sights. You need your muscle memory to take over with good point of aim (I think thats the term) shots. The only way this can be achieved is with constant practice. Also, go to a range that has moving targets and will allow you to shoot on the move if possible.
My Glock 19 has thrown over 15k+ down range. $500 firearm, $2200 in ammo over 8 or 9 years. There were times i'd go to th range and shoot 500 rounds in an afternoon or we'd go to a buddies farm on the weekend and i'd go through a case (1000 rounds) A few replaced springs but the same barrel. I used to get quite a bit of practice.
Yeah, Glocks are very sturdy. There is a video on Youtube of a guy with a G18 putting like 1000rds through it one after the other trying to get a failure. Not happening. He finaly gives up. The barrel must have been HOT!
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