Perhaps you should explain this Carlyle Group. since this is the first I have heard of it. Also, I don't think this is a vendetta. I don't believe Bush would want to risk being the only president who is responsible for starting WWIII. Saddam needs to be removed. I'm just concerned as to what the outcome might be.
Excuse me, but what insiders flew jets into the WTC, Pentagon, and PA. We do have outside enemies here and throughout the world.
As far as the sanctions are concerned. From what I understand, Saddam is not providing food and medicine to his own innocent people.

 

To be honest I think the people opposed to war with Iraq lack brainpower to see situations clearly. I've already ripped a few signs with anti-war propoganda taped to telephone poles near my house, it's very satisfying. Go try it!

We're not at war with Iraq, we're at war with Sadaam. Collateral damage or no collateral damage, the risk of a weapon of mass destruction detonating ANYWHERE in THIS or ANOTHER peaceful country is enough reason to do a little carpet bombing.

 

Thank God, a voice of reason from california. We may not have to do much carpet bombing with some good information on some key targets and the use of JDAMs.
God Bless you Lee.

 

Some might suggest pro-war people lack brain power to clearly see this situation.
Next time do a spell check. Brain power is not one word and propaganda is misspelled. Also, it's Saddam.
What sort of propaganda was on these posters? Did you ever think that Bush and his people are handing us a load of propaganda? Things that make you go "HMMMMM".

 

None of us want Iraqis to die, what we want is peace.

Let's play this out step by step:

The United States and the U.N. decide not to take action against Sadaam for refusing U.N. weapons inspectors and engaging in suspicious activities, such as formatting the hard drives of computers right before the inspectors arrive.

Sadaam now has the ability to build whatever he wants, whenever he wants.

Sadaam, the leader of a large country with a massive amount of valuable resources, and a firm dictatorship to allow himself access to the profits from these resources, wants to kill some Israelis or Americans.

Sadaam builds a nuclear bomb (if he hasn't already)

Sadaam finds a way to sneak the bomb into one of our harbors, or into Israel -OR- somehow acquires an ICBM just waiting for a weapons-grade uranium or plutonium warhead to be screwed on to the tip.

All radio stations, television stations, and newspapers go into a frenzy as millions have been killed, a city flattened, and enough radiation is blown through the wind to sicken or kill thousands, if not millions more, for years to come.


Is this not so hard to believe? Why would you think that this couldn't happen? What do you think Sadaam will do with weapons of mass destruction? Use them as lawn ornaments?

Of course many will die in this war. We DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE. Islamic extremists CANNOT BE REASONED WITH.

Of course this may trigger hostile reactions from other Arab countries, or even Arabs living in our own. This is something we have to accept. Luckily, most of these extremists will come out of the woodworks to try to defend Iraq or whatever other country we may end up being forced to flatten. The more of them that are killed, the better off we and the rest of the world are. I apologize if I sound harsh, but I honestly do not believe these people deserve to live, and our world would be a better place without them.

By "them", I mean islamic extremists with intent to kill. I do not believe all followers of Allah are terrorists.

 

Some might suggest pro-war people lack brain power to clearly see this situation. Next time do a spell check. Brain power is not one word and propaganda is misspelled. Also, it's Saddam.

http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=brainpower

What sort of propaganda was on these posters? Did you ever think that Bush and his people are handing us a load of propaganda? Things that make you go "HMMMMM".

Of course it's propaganda, I just happen to side with Bush this time. There's nothing really to argue here, we're going to war whether you or any of these other protestors like it or not. Too bad.

Really Dario, are spelling mistakes all the ammo you have?

 

i'm worried about war and against it...assasination would be much more effective at meeting the advertised goals of the proposed war. I agree with that CIA report...that any preemptive action on our part would cause more of a return strike than we really want to deal with. We're never going to find all his hidden weapons...they're kept underwater, under sand...it's not like they're all stacked up nice and neat in a wharehouse somewhere. We can't bomb the entire country and call it goodwill either. I think saddam needs to be gotten rid of, but I don't think a full scale war against the country is the best way to do it. Rock and a hard spot...

 

Well as much as I'd love to hear a long drawn out essay about why we should allow a dictator to endanger the lives of millions of innocent people, I need to take off for a few hours. I'll be back.

 

Ok folks, if you can concentrate long enough on something other than T&A, this is why we could go to war with Iraq. Keep in mind, the treaty they signed does not allow them to produce these chemical weapons after the gulf war.

Iraq began to produce sulphur mustard blister gas (HD) in the early 1980s, and by 1983 was able to employ it in chemical munitions against Iran. The primary effect of mustard gas is skin and eye blistering and lung irritation. Heavy exposure to an aerosol of mustard gas causes the lungs to fill with fluid and "drown" the victim. Mustard gas has a low death rate; generally only 2 to 3 percent of its victims perish.
Iraq initially told UNSCOM that 3,080 tons of mustard gas had been produced, but in 1995 Iraq reduced this amount to 2,850 tons. UNSCOM found Iraq's mustard gas to be at least 80% pure and determined that it could be stored for long periods of time, both in bulk and in weaponized form. In its distilled form, mustard gas has a long life, and can be stockpiled for decades. It is relatively easy to produce and load into munitions. Iraq admits filling some 550 artillery shells with mustard gas but says it misplaced them shortly after the Gulf War.

Iraq moved up to producing the nerve gases sarin (GB) and tabun (GA) in 1984. These gases are highly toxic compounds that can penetrate the body either through contact with skin or eyes, or by inhalation. Just a few droplets will kill within minutes if inhaled or within hours if absorbed through the skin. The initial effects depend on the amount of contact with the agent and are almost immediate. Chemical nerve agents tend to have little or no incubation or latent period in the body. These agents act by attacking the central nervous system, causing rapid paralysis, respiratory failure and death by asphyxiation.
At first, Iraq told UNSCOM that it had produced an estimated 250 tons of tabun and 812 tons of sarin. In 1995, Iraq changed its estimates and reported it had produced only 210 tons of tabun and 790 tons of sarin. Thus, it is still uncertain how much tabun and sarin Iraq actually manufactured.

Iraq appears to have turned its research efforts toward VX nerve gas in 1985. VX is the most toxic of all known chemical warfare agents. Its effects on the body are similar to those of sarin and tabun, paralyzing the nervous system and causing convulsions and rapid death when contact occurs. A very small amount on the skin (10 milligrams) is enough to kill a man. VX is an oily liquid that may persist in the environment for weeks or longer, thereby posing a major skin absorption risk.
UNSCOM estimated that by 1991, Iraq could have produced between 50 and 100 tons of VX gas. By 1998, UNSCOM estimated that Iraq was capable of producing 200 tons. Iraq at first told UNSCOM that it had only produced 240 kilograms of VX, but in 1996 admitted that it had produced 3.9 tons. Iraq provided documents stating that 2.4 tons of VX were produced in 1988 and the remainder in 1990.

It is 2002, imagine what they have produced in over 10 years with no UN weapons inspections. You will see clear evidence that saddam assisted the same scumbags that killed over 3000 people in America on 9-11.
It is going to take an attack that kills 10000+ people to make some knotheads realize that we are fighting WWIII right now. The enemy doesnt wear a uniform, doesnt play by UN war protocol, and the battlefield is right in your back yard. No, saddam is not a member of al-queada, but he does support and assist them. That support will eventually come in the form of the above mentioned WMD's if we dont help his country get rid of him. Remember folks, this guy's 2nd in command that defected to the US after saddam tried to kill him twice said he does cocain almost every day and heroin more than twice a week....along with drinking heavily. He said saddam was gakked out of his mind when he ordered the invasion of Kuwait.

Get serious folks!

....and by the way how much more could the middle east region hate us than they already do? Factions are already sending murderers here to plan the deaths of as many Americans as possible.

Into clubbing DJ Sang?, take a look at what happened in Bali over the weekend. 150+ dead from a bomb in a club that western tourists frequent. On the anniversary of the bombing of the USS Cole no less. If we dont get these terrorists now, theyll be bombing our clubs next. We are being sent a clear warning....ignore it and more people die, and then the nutless liberals will blame Bush for not stopping it from happening.

 

well i guess i can say it's about time we went and cleaned up that mess...we practically gave iraq their full WMD and chemical capabilities in the 80s with our republican leadership.