So....adults are not mature too? They cannot follow the rules? Then if they cant even follow rules than why make them for others to follow?

Do you see what I am getting at.

Its fact only if every school related stabbing, shooting, stabbing, theft, vandelism, rape, and murder is reported to the federal level. And with the way public schools are today I doubt these tables are as acurate as they seem. Remember the WOMD scare. None the less, that does not change the fact that we are all expressing our opinion on this forum. I have no doubt that the unnessesary rules are stricter then ever before and I also have no doubt that they are enforced to harshly on our youth. I think that rules are fine, I have no problem bending, stretching, and in some rare cases breaking them, however I cannot even begin to understand the concept of ZERO tollerance because that term has no place in our society espically when it comes to cell phones in school. Hell O.J. got away with murder. While on the subject of cell phones in public schools i just ask you to remember that they are PUBLIC and not private resturants. And on a closing note, i would like to quote S2000boi's statement that

 

Good people follow the rules, for the most part, bad people whine about how strict they are after they get caught violating them

While yes, yes they are even private schools must report incidences to the federal government.

I have a feeling that you only think "the way public schools are today". A teacher will tell you kids have less respect, and their attitudes have gotten worse wnd worse but they are going to report when a kid gets beat up to the office.

Great example

[QUOTE]While on the subject of cell phones in public schools i just ask you to remember that they are PUBLIC and not private resturants.And on a closing note, i would like to

 

There is no way that every single violent incident that occurs at a public school is reported at the federal level.

Also I'm not only considering homicides but any violent incident including making threats at teachers and fellow students or bringing a weapon to school for show and tell. Unsafe envionments.

IMO if public schools want to be better then focus less on ridiculous rules and more on promoting safe, positive envionments to facilitate learning.

 

ITS A HUGE CONSIPACY. THE GOVERMENT IS COVERING UP KIDS GETTING KILLED, BEATEN AND HARRASED DURING SCHOOL. YET DIDN'T COVER UP THE LACK OF WMD IN IRAQ!?


HONDA 606 SHOULD CHIME IN HE KNOWS ABOUT EVERY CONSIPACY


My god did you look at the link I have there? It has all of those stats. Including if you feared going to school

This is the data that we have, you have none. It has been collected for over a decade now nearly the same way every year. you've collected data? Where is it? What are you basing these "facts" on? It would be inprobable that we would have such a statistically significant decrease if there wasn't one.

http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2005/crime_safe04/tables.asp

LIST OF TABLES
Table 1.1.
Number of school-associated violent deaths and number of homicides and suicides of youth ages 5-19, by location: 1992-2002
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Table 2.1. Number of nonfatal crimes against students ages 12-18 at school, by type of crime and selected student characteristics: 1992-2002
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Table 2.2. Rate of nonfatal crimes against students ages 12-18 at school per 1,000 students, by type of crime and selected student characteristics: 1992-2002 ...
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Table 2.3. Number of nonfatal crimes against students ages 12-18 away from school, by type of crime and selected student characteristics: 1992-2002
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Table 2.4. Rate of nonfatal crimes against students ages 12-18 away from school per 1,000 students, by type of crime and selected student characteristics: 1992-2002
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Table 3.1. Percentage of students ages 12-18 who reported criminal victimization at school during the previous 6 months, by type of victimization and selected student characteristics: Selected years 1995-2003
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Table 4.1. Percentage of students in grades 9-12 who reported being threatened or injured with a weapon on school property during the previous 12 months, by selected student characteristics: Selected years 1993-2003
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Table 5.1. Percentage of students in grades 9-12 who reported having been in a physical fight during the previous 12 months, by location and selected student characteristics: Selected years 1993-2003
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Table 6.1. Percentage of students ages 12-18 who reported being bullied at school during the previous 6 months, by selected student characteristics: 1999, 2001, and 2003
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Table 7.1. Number and percentage of public schools that reported various types of crime and number of incidents, by type of crime and selected school characteristics: 1999-2000
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Table 7.2. Number and percentage of public schools that reported various types of crime to the police and number of incidents, by type of crime and selected school characteristics: 1999-2000
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Table 8.1. Percentage and number of public schools that took a serious disciplinary action, number of actions taken, and percentage distribution of actions according to type, by type of offense: 1999-2000
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Table 9.1. Average annual number of nonfatal crimes against teachers and average annual rate of crimes per 1,000 teachers at school, by type of crime and selected teacher and school characteristics: 1998-2002
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Table 10.1. Percentage and number of public and private school teachers who reported that they were threatened with injury by a student during the previous 12 months, by urbanicity and selected teacher and school characteristics: 1993-94 and 1999-2000
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Table 10.2. Percentage and number of public and private school teachers who reported that they were physically attacked by a student during the previous 12 months, by urbanicity and selected teacher and school characteristics: 1993-94 and 1999-2000
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Table 11.1. Percentage of students in grades 9-12 who reported carrying a weapon at least 1 day during the previous 30 days, by location and selected student characteristics: Selected years 1993-2003
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Table 12.1. Percentage of students ages 12-18 who reported being afraid during the previous 6 months, by location and selected student characteristics: Selected years: 1995-2003
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Table 13.1. Percentage of students ages 12-18 who reported avoiding one or more places in school during the previous 6 months, by selected student characteristics: Selected years 1995-2003
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Table 14.1. Percentage of students ages 12-18 who reported being targets of hate-related words or seeing hate-related graffiti at school during the previous 6 months, by selected student characteristics: 1999, 2001, and 2003
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Table 14.2. Percentage of students ages 12-18 who reported being targets of hate-related words at school during the previous 6 months, by selected student characteristics: 2003
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Table 15.1. Percentage of students ages 12-18 who reported that street gangs were present at school during the previous 6 months, by urbanicity and selected student characteristics: 2001 and 2003
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Table 16.1. Percentage of public schools that reported selected discipline problems by frequency, by school characteristics: 1999-2000
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Table 17.1. Percentage of students in grades 9-12 who reported using alcohol during the previous 30 days, by location and selected student characteristics: Selected years 1993-2003
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Table 18.1. Percentage of students in grades 9-12 who reported using marijuana during the previous 30 days, by location and selected student characteristics: Selected years 1993-2003
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Table 19.1. Percentage of students in grades 9-12 who reported that drugs were made available to them on school property during the previous 12 months, by selected student characteristics: Selected years 1993-2003
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The belief that the school system violent crime is increasing is false. Give me something to prove otherwise.

 

Oh yeah I forgot gettting suspended for cussing out your teacher is too strick but its alright if you get dead by being hit by a drunk driver if your filming illegally.

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...T&f=3&t=290691

 

Columbine and Red Lake

 

^look at your sig.


that female looks like a minor... hmm indecency material for picture a minor look like in that kind of pose.. shows what kind of a person you are

 

Columbine and red lake didn't add statistically significant increases to the pool. I'm not saying it perfect but the rates are down and those two incidences accounted for much of what is the rate now. Much like the september 11 deaths were added into the violent crime statistic and pulled the numbers up but still the levels are below the 1969 mark. Your basing you opinion off of two very isolated incidences in which 10s of kids where injured much different then your earlier statement of a shooting/stabing every week on your local news. All in all the rates are down. Hey I'm all for it getting better, I would say even one is too many but you can't say that violence in schools is up when its clearly cut in half based on two incidences and tens of thousands if not hundreads of thousands of schools.

 

She's over 25!

WTF are YOU thinking about?

Your obviously projecting your thoughts.

I've never heard that from anyone here only the opposite.

Like please send me the pic of that hot woman you have in your avatar.

Besides its a shot of a beautiful woman in a non nude and I think non suggestive pose. She's messing with a VCR!

You keep taking personal hits is it because I've proved your "facts" wrong.

 

Actually I'm not basing my opinions only from Red Lake and Columbine. Again don't put words in my mouth to suit your argument or lack of. You asked for something to prove otherwise and I threw out two incidents.

And yes, in Miami there are weekly incidents of school violence, either kid brings a gun to school to teacher gets stabbed. Most do not make the national news but one that did is the Jamie Goth case.