CNC Speedshop built engine
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Originally Posted by -T0mS2k-' timestamp='1444812517' post='23774929
... And again two weeks without any answer from CN Speedshop or wadzii about my refund 
What a serious shop
What a serious shop
I'd have used Paypal. At least you can use Paypal as leverage if/when a company falls short on delivering what you paid for.
Full disclosure: I bought an AEM Infinity from wadzii ~3 weeks ago (PnP harness, fuel pressure and wideband sensors, wadzii's custom aux harness for the extra sensors, etc). Did so using a paypal invoice just in case. But thankfully Jason was very helpful and professional and delivered on what I purchased. No complaints at all.
I _know_ from having read this thread the OP will just respond to me harping about how "well I'm screwed". Yeap, you definitely are. Sorry about that. But given how you've gotten wadzii banned and are on a mission to bury his business you'll never see that refund money. You may feel like you exhausted all options so you're taking the gloves off but _this_ thread is a cautionary tale for everyone else on: why you don't do business with a company you cannot even properly communicate with.
I've purchased parts from Japan but only at $100 - $250 each. It was a leap of faith, I couldn't imagine spending $8500+ purely because a company in the US _seems_ reputable.
FYI, I also bought Ohlins DFVs from Urge Designs. Patrick was also great to deal with. Seems the Urge haters had much more intrusive engine work done?
Like you says i'm a naive guy. I wait some news from him during the process build but nothing. I made some quotation for my project and Wadzii convinced because he had a good reputation (Veteran member exactly ?). Since i returned the engine after seeing above problems, i knew he would not answer me. He assumed his fault about the wrong parts but made no effort about poor communication and never purpose a financial compensation.
It's a scammer and he says it ! He create more GB on s2ki and I hope other members will not encounter the same problems with bad parts or improper assembly.
You can see pics and video at the first page, if for you it's a great job, we dont the same concept of quality of service.
Whether or not banned, priority was not there. He explained once and it did not convince people. I know I would not have refund. I know he continues his life as if nothing had happened. I talked to admins because there is a risk with other ongoing GB on S2KI
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Supplying component parts is the easy bit,you just re-wrap it and move it on.When it comes to a combination of parts as in a rebuilt engine then at some point you need to trust some body to do the work for you.If even one of the component in that built engine is sustandard or not as ordered you then have to question everything.
As the Op says this guy is going about his life/business in a normal way with no regard for the money/time and trouble he has caused.Swapping engines is hard work or if paying somebody to do the work then it's expensive.Just because it's not money on a table or a large shiny part doesn't mean none hasn't been spent.
What the mods have done is the right thing/only thing they could do under the circumstances.Wether it has an effect on the business in question is unknown but it makes them aware of what is right or wrong and wiping their feet on hard working people just isn't the right thing to do.I would like to think that they lose out on any further work of that kind because they don't deserve it.The distance involved pretty much cancelles out a face to face confrontation,so physical harm isn't going to happen,but the work required to raise the money for the work cannot be undone.
Although in my situation the original engine cost me around $5000 with the labour,replacement engine,tuning and final rebuild it's around the $20.000.I work hard for my wages and I've worked hard to provide that amount to get things how they should have been in the original purchase.
As the Op says this guy is going about his life/business in a normal way with no regard for the money/time and trouble he has caused.Swapping engines is hard work or if paying somebody to do the work then it's expensive.Just because it's not money on a table or a large shiny part doesn't mean none hasn't been spent.
What the mods have done is the right thing/only thing they could do under the circumstances.Wether it has an effect on the business in question is unknown but it makes them aware of what is right or wrong and wiping their feet on hard working people just isn't the right thing to do.I would like to think that they lose out on any further work of that kind because they don't deserve it.The distance involved pretty much cancelles out a face to face confrontation,so physical harm isn't going to happen,but the work required to raise the money for the work cannot be undone.
Although in my situation the original engine cost me around $5000 with the labour,replacement engine,tuning and final rebuild it's around the $20.000.I work hard for my wages and I've worked hard to provide that amount to get things how they should have been in the original purchase.
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Plus, how can you ignore mails from admins ? The main forum where you're considered as a certified shop.
EDIT : here some example when we tried to communicate with him
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EDIT : here some example when we tried to communicate with him
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As the Op says this guy is going about his life/business in a normal way with no regard for the money/time and trouble he has caused.Swapping engines is hard work or if paying somebody to do the work then it's expensive.Just because it's not money on a table or a large shiny part doesn't mean none hasn't been spent.
No offer of financial assistance for an engine that blew within miles. I will never deal with anything other than the UK on my engine now.
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The problem is because they have washed their hands of you it's free money.......they haven't any interest in what it's going to cost from that point onwards.
I mentioned to Fernando( Kings Performance) that having priced components and labour it was going to cost me $7-8000 he told me I was being extravagant and going over the top.....yet he charges $12.000 for a built engine,something of a contradiction in my opinion.
I mentioned to Fernando( Kings Performance) that having priced components and labour it was going to cost me $7-8000 he told me I was being extravagant and going over the top.....yet he charges $12.000 for a built engine,something of a contradiction in my opinion.
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The problem is because they have washed their hands of you it's free money.......they haven't any interest in what it's going to cost from that point onwards.
I mentioned to Fernando( Kings Performance) that having priced components and labour it was going to cost me $7-8000 he told me I was being extravagant and going over the top.....yet he charges $12.000 for a built engine,something of a contradiction in my opinion.
I mentioned to Fernando( Kings Performance) that having priced components and labour it was going to cost me $7-8000 he told me I was being extravagant and going over the top.....yet he charges $12.000 for a built engine,something of a contradiction in my opinion.
It seems that some shops think that when their customers are overseas ones. They can do what they want...
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Originally Posted by mr-pitts' timestamp='1446070838' post='23788810
The problem is because they have washed their hands of you it's free money.......they haven't any interest in what it's going to cost from that point onwards.
I mentioned to Fernando( Kings Performance) that having priced components and labour it was going to cost me $7-8000 he told me I was being extravagant and going over the top.....yet he charges $12.000 for a built engine,something of a contradiction in my opinion.
I mentioned to Fernando( Kings Performance) that having priced components and labour it was going to cost me $7-8000 he told me I was being extravagant and going over the top.....yet he charges $12.000 for a built engine,something of a contradiction in my opinion.
It seems that some shops think that when their customers are overseas ones. They can do what they want...
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Originally Posted by -T0mS2k-' timestamp='1446106480' post='23789109
[quote name='mr-pitts' timestamp='1446070838' post='23788810']
The problem is because they have washed their hands of you it's free money.......they haven't any interest in what it's going to cost from that point onwards.
I mentioned to Fernando( Kings Performance) that having priced components and labour it was going to cost me $7-8000 he told me I was being extravagant and going over the top.....yet he charges $12.000 for a built engine,something of a contradiction in my opinion.
The problem is because they have washed their hands of you it's free money.......they haven't any interest in what it's going to cost from that point onwards.
I mentioned to Fernando( Kings Performance) that having priced components and labour it was going to cost me $7-8000 he told me I was being extravagant and going over the top.....yet he charges $12.000 for a built engine,something of a contradiction in my opinion.
It seems that some shops think that when their customers are overseas ones. They can do what they want...
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We received the engine in September 2014, we begin to install it on the car in January 2015, report all problems on it on February 2015 at the same time discussed with Jason how can it we resolve this problem. He knew that we paid for a track season and that we have a deadline. February 2015 to May 2015 it was a left and right conversation because he want us to advance shipping returns to inspect it. Our first track begun at June. So we had to take a decision to not loose more $$ and missed this season. So we sold the car to invest that money on a other one.
To resume, _NO_ we don't sold the car _before_ receiving the engine
All that point were describe on the first 3 pages of the topic. Here the link to the post for the same question
I hope that is not Jason that saying this because if it's the case. That's a lie and i have so many mails about it that he couldn't deny this point.
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