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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SlowSi
Do what I did and be done with it. Single Walbro in tank, Bosch 044 inline, adjustable 1:1 FPR, and 100 psi base pressure. I made 610whp on E85 and ran like this for years. Stock fuel lines. I cut the rubber fuel line in the engine bay and used a barbed fitting on the Bosch pump, then AN fitting to my AEM fuel rail.
So barbs on each end can be used to add the bosch 044 inline and then with the fuel pressure increased via a fpr, can be sufficient enough with id1000s to support 600hp on e85?
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 10:04 AM
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I'm interested in your results. Will be keeping tabs on your build.

I'm running 16 PSI on an Novi SC setup with ID1000's making 390 WHP on 93 octane. Considering the possibility of keeping the injectors, swapping in the Walbro 416 and seeing what it will do on E85 so I can run flex fuel. I'd feel successful hitting 450 WHP on E85 with that setup... just not sure if the Walbro 416 w/ ID1000's will be able to supply enough fuel to keep the mix at a safe AFR. I don't want to boost fuel pressure too high because it might make the 93 octane tune screwy.
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Interested in opinions on if I could run E85 flex fuel setup, Walbro 416 in-tank pump, ID1000's, and not run out of fuel to support 16-18 PSI supercharger setup. Currently at 390 WHP on 93 octane, looking for 450 WHP on straight E85. Possible? I have an AEM FPR and would feel OK raising base pressure to 50-55ish, but don't want to go too high because I'm afraid it might not run right when on straight 93 octane.
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by CoolGuy094
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I'm interested in your results. Will be keeping tabs on your build.

I'm running 16 PSI on an Novi SC setup with ID1000's making 390 WHP on 93 octane. Considering the possibility of keeping the injectors, swapping in the Walbro 416 and seeing what it will do on E85 so I can run flex fuel. I'd feel successful hitting 450 WHP on E85 with that setup... just not sure if the Walbro 416 w/ ID1000's will be able to supply enough fuel to keep the mix at a safe AFR. I don't want to boost fuel pressure too high because it might make the 93 octane tune screwy.
Bump.

Interested in opinions on if I could run E85 flex fuel setup, Walbro 416 in-tank pump, ID1000's, and not run out of fuel to support 16-18 PSI supercharger setup. Currently at 390 WHP on 93 octane, looking for 450 WHP on straight E85. Possible? I have an AEM FPR and would feel OK raising base pressure to 50-55ish, but don't want to go too high because I'm afraid it might not run right when on straight 93 octane.
I think youll be fine. I was talking to my tuner he said for my boost level i should be fine. I was already willing to drop money on a new pump and injectors.

my set-up

aem 320lph
id1000
aem rail
stock fpr

Since our setup is so similar ill let you know what happens after the dyno.
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 10:19 AM
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Thanks for the reply, my not-so-evil twin.

I also currently have the (Aeromotive) 340 pump, ID1000's, stock rail, but AEM FPR. I was under the impression that the 340 pump wouldn't be enough to feed the ID1000's which is why I was looking into the Walbro 416. I have my pump hardwired (as do you, I believe) so it should be outputting the max of what it is capable of. Very interested in your results.
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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Have a friend with ID1000 and one 340 fuel pump running E85. He made 576whp on a dyno dynamic.

I'll be going to the same tunner to tune my car.
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Old Jul 3, 2014 | 01:07 PM
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Well hot damn, Flex Fuel here I come!
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Old Jul 13, 2014 | 08:10 PM
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So when you guys got tuned for flex fuel, did you just do a regular tune on 93 octane and then another tune on E85 to determine your timing/fueling adjustment percentages? Or did you also do a third tune (or more) at a lower ethanol mix to get another reference point in there?

Basically what I'm asking is does your flex fuel tuning just linearly interpolate between two points, one being a 93 octane tune and one being a E85 tune? Is it assumed to be a linear curve between the two points for the timing and fueling adjustments?
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 04:56 AM
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E85 allows for a higher margin of error in tuning before detonation and so you can assume a linear relationship.

I tune two points, 91 and then E85. Then run mixed of 91/E85 close to 50/50 to verify O2 and timing. The A/F ratio is usually spot on linearly with O2 feed back. For timing, I run a slightly less timing up to E50, and then extrapolate to the E85 timing. I don't think it is worth my time to try to optimize the timing in between. What I am looking for is to make sure there are no knock voltage spikes between those two points.

Most of the time I would be running E85, and if I would have to pump 91, I wouldn't drive as aggressively until I'M back to E70 or above.
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 07:56 AM
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Thank you for the excellent response.
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