Inline Pro 5965B turbo build
Originally Posted by TRBOKEV,Aug 3 2010, 05:32 PM
Spoolin, please read up on Benson sleeves... They are definitely good stuff.
Here are some links to Bensons own site as well as Laskeys site where the motor was assembled.
http://www.bensonsmachine.com/benson-sleeves.html
http://www.laskeyracing.com/shop/s2000.htm
Here are some links to Bensons own site as well as Laskeys site where the motor was assembled.
http://www.bensonsmachine.com/benson-sleeves.html
http://www.laskeyracing.com/shop/s2000.htm
Do you think I could go straight through his shop to have my block built and save a little money over going through the middle man, Laskey? I know the Laskey built blocks have seen some problems from what I have read; low oil pressure and the such.
Why dont we see more of these engines being used in the drag raced S's as apposed to a lot of IP built bottom ends being used? I just dont here of the Laskey/Benson built engines being used and pushed hard like IP.
Can Laskey build the engines with Carrillo rods instead of pauter?
Benson does sleeves, not engine builds. laskey does engine builds and not sleeves. If you want your engine built by laskey he is going to use benson to sleeve the block. They aren't even in the same state.
^^I thought maybe Benson would build the block too but oh well.
That being said......I can have Benson sleeve the block for around $1025 shipped, Benson micropolish and balance the crank for $150 shipped, and get the bearings for $100, pauter rods for $775 and CP pistons for $570 through Laskey for a grand total of $2620 and then just put it together myself. I'm sure Mike Laskey would also cut me a deal purchasing all the parts, so the price may be a little cheaper also. Maybe a full build somewhere around $2500 if I put it all together. Thats a savings of at least $1000. Hmmmmmm.........
That being said......I can have Benson sleeve the block for around $1025 shipped, Benson micropolish and balance the crank for $150 shipped, and get the bearings for $100, pauter rods for $775 and CP pistons for $570 through Laskey for a grand total of $2620 and then just put it together myself. I'm sure Mike Laskey would also cut me a deal purchasing all the parts, so the price may be a little cheaper also. Maybe a full build somewhere around $2500 if I put it all together. Thats a savings of at least $1000. Hmmmmmm.........
^^ Mike is a good guy, give him a call and see what he can do for you. I bought every piece of my valvetrain from him also and he had the best prices on all that stuff that I could find.
Benson use to be in Los Angeles back in the day but moved his operation to Idaho. I dont blame him, with 10% state sales tax and all the environmental BS herein the state it's happening a lot.
Benson use to be in Los Angeles back in the day but moved his operation to Idaho. I dont blame him, with 10% state sales tax and all the environmental BS herein the state it's happening a lot.
^^Oh I know. I've talked with him many times and he is very helpful. I got my Supertech valvetrain from him. I just never looked much into his Benson built blocks since I never hear of people with big power using them.
Here is something to ponder and this isnt to bash Benson or Laskey, just something to think about. They claim that the open decks will run cooler and is better for the heat in the head since thats the way Honda designed them on the F20c and F22c. Well, think about this for a second....As soon as you put the HG on, and head for that matter, that open deck has to squeeze coolant through the HG and head passages much like it would if it was made like the IP closed deck sleeved block. The only difference is that the IP closed deck sleeved block starts the coolant passages down about a 1/4" further into the deck than when they would typically start with the HG. I dont think that would make any difference in cooling at all.
This doesnt mean I'm not thinking about having Laskey build mine, I just wanted to point that out. There are a few other claims about the Benson sleeves that I really like too. I'll call and talk with Mike Laskey about this cooling claim and explain my theory on it and see what he says when I go to build my bottom end.
Here is something to ponder and this isnt to bash Benson or Laskey, just something to think about. They claim that the open decks will run cooler and is better for the heat in the head since thats the way Honda designed them on the F20c and F22c. Well, think about this for a second....As soon as you put the HG on, and head for that matter, that open deck has to squeeze coolant through the HG and head passages much like it would if it was made like the IP closed deck sleeved block. The only difference is that the IP closed deck sleeved block starts the coolant passages down about a 1/4" further into the deck than when they would typically start with the HG. I dont think that would make any difference in cooling at all.
This doesnt mean I'm not thinking about having Laskey build mine, I just wanted to point that out. There are a few other claims about the Benson sleeves that I really like too. I'll call and talk with Mike Laskey about this cooling claim and explain my theory on it and see what he says when I go to build my bottom end.
Originally Posted by dsddcd,Aug 3 2010, 04:50 PM
I don't know Kevin are you really prepaired to go with the Full Race?
Paul had to put on the heat sheilding, you will need to relocate the battery and AC Lines at minimum.
Paul had to put on the heat sheilding, you will need to relocate the battery and AC Lines at minimum.
but I think it would look cleaner anyways, and worth it IMO 
wrapping that hotside is probably good insurance for the motor mount too
Originally Posted by Spoolin,Aug 3 2010, 10:14 PM
Here is something to ponder and this isnt to bash Benson or Laskey, just something to think about. They claim that the open decks will run cooler and is better for the heat in the head since thats the way Honda designed them on the F20c and F22c. Well, think about this for a second....As soon as you put the HG on, and head for that matter, that open deck has to squeeze coolant through the HG and head passages much like it would if it was made like the IP closed deck sleeved block. The only difference is that the IP closed deck sleeved block starts the coolant passages down about a 1/4" further into the deck than when they would typically start with the HG. I dont think that would make any difference in cooling at all.
Coolant/.038 head gasket/aluminum head
vs
Coolant/iron closed deck/head gasket/aluminum head
It's not necessarily the flow through of the coolant IMO..
I know Science of Speed sells three different types of sleeved blocks (Two open deck types and the closed deck) and they ONLY recommend the closed deck sleeving for drag race purposes.
Heres the quote from their site on the closed deck AEBS sleeve (Same sleeve Inline uses): "closed deck design - closed deck with water passage holes drilled - recommended for drag racing only where engine will not experience cyclic temperatures due to street or road course use".
http://www.scienceofspeed.com/products/eng...rvices/sleeves/







