The reason that cars dont account for a shitload more pollution is BECAUSE THEY COME WITH CATS. Most people dont take their cats off. What if everyone thought like you and we had every car in the world without a cat? That's why I'm atleast attempting to deter people from removing their cat.

People pollute because nobody gives a crap. Have you done anything about pollution to make companies think that being greener will sell more products? If you genuinely care and show that you care (even about the small things...like cars, plastic bags, etc), companies might follow suit.

My points are that you need air to live. Your points are that it makes a few more hp after you put on a test pipe?

People take pride in the S2000 being the nicest sounding car ever without a cat on? That's ridiculous.

Yes, obviously, the more MPG you get, the less fuel you burn. But even with less fuel burned, the car will put out more pollution than if it had a cat and got 1mpg less.

 

Are you doubting that I'm good looking?

 

not doubting your good looking-ness

 

i had a highly tuned jdm h22 civic with a set of custom built headers with a 3 to 2.5 inch velocity stack where the cat would be into a custom 2.5 inch exhaust. there wasnt even a spot to put a cat on my car and the smell was no different. i think part of the smell comes from the thickness of the exhaust pipe and what not. my exhaust was completely one piece from headers back. it was really expensive but i couldnt smell anything.

 

omg this thread lives!

 

IBTL, if so.

I was thinking about going catless just to see what the hype is about.
Had the danged thing for almost 6 months and havn't installed it.


Get business and get down to the dirty, go to the sources and do something about companies producing and selling test pipes. While your at it, do something about those old semi's that shoot black smoke from their exhausts. Do something about gigantic vehicles with a gigantic engine that burn large amounts of fuel to move its ungodly weight ( boats, planes, construction equiptment, farm equiptment, ect.)

Even then, I seriously doubt business will hault because green is in.
Production will continue and we will always deal with these problems. It's just more and more people getting freaked out that live in populated areas with nothing better to do eh?
I work 20 miles away one way, I'm not walking that shit. I bought a bike for that.
If anyone really wants something done, invest in magnetic railways an such. Pollutions is minimal if any.

TP's are illegal (obvious statments) and probably worse then you think, compared to many other things that pollute, how bad is this TP really?
There are many vehicles out there with crazy amounts of horsepower, which is cool because were pissed about test pipes instead.

An engine is running, that can be avoided. Just as much as a TP being installed.
Where exactly is this all really going to go?

Easy, no where. Just argumentative conversations with facts, charts, graphs and big words.
Its nice to see everyones views though.

 

I am stock and plan to stay that way because I want to run stock class in autoX in the future. If I were to change the cat, it would be a high flow cat because I don't want to smell. I also do not like pollution, but that is by far not the main reason.

As for global warming.............................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io-Tb...eature=related