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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 12:36 PM
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First off, I'd like to thank Dave for putting the effort in and coordinating with Canton to fill a need for the S2000. I installed my pan this past weekend and would like to share my thoughts. Since I wanted "protection" on the front of the engine near the pump and since nobody has done it yet, I set out to determine what modifications were necessary to retain the factory windage tray.




Greased up the factory tray and got to work..



This is how far I got until the factory windage tray was no longer interfering. However, the pan was still not sitting correctly, not by a long shot.



Put some grease on the pickup area where it seemed to be hitting and I ended up being correct. Had to do some trimming that I did not expect.







After I got that squared away, it was back to the factory windage tray interfering.



After that cut picture above, I was again getting interference by something other than the factory tray. At this point I was beginning to get disappointed with the work that needed to be done in order to get the pan to fit right even without the factory tray. I removed the Canton tray as well and still had the issue. I apologize for not circling the material I cut. I cut the corner "flanges" of the top of the oil pick up area. Photo below.



Below is another angle of the cut I had to make to clear the actual pickup and of the cuts of the top "flanges"



I put the Canton tray back on and after test fitment, I ended up having to trim the tray just as "RAIN H8R" mention in the original thread.



I was finally able to get back to working on the factory tray. I made the final cuts necessary and ended up with the below.





For anybody that is interested in keeping the factory tray, it should be fairly easy to mimic my cut lines pictured above. After all the modifications above, I was finally able to get my pan sealed up.

In my opinion, the flywheel cover provided was clearly cheap afterthought with no almost no effort put into it. As some others have also experienced, the holes don't line up and hardware is not provided. The other big oversight is that the flywheel protrudes past the surface of the bell housing. Consequently, if the cover was bolted flat to the bellhousing, it would be touching the flywheel. I'm curious why nobody else encountered this. I am working on a MY07. I ended up having to make some modifications to the cover and make some spacers in order to properly space it forward. You can somewhat see in the photo below how the flywheel shits forward of the bellhousing surface. Since my car is track only, I dont mind the gap but if it was driven on the street as well, I would have fabbed up my own cover to do the job properly. If time permits, I still might end up making a better one.



I am very mechanically inclined, so all the modifications necessary weren't an issue for me but it is not what I expected to do for a product that is made specifically for this vehicle and for the price I paid. Others with only basic hand tools might run into more than they bargained for. I dont want anybody to misconstrue this and think I am trying to diminish the effort Dave but into getting this pan made. I am grateful that he put in the time to make it happen. However, since I am still on street tires, if I were to do it again, I would wait to see if the design was refined a bit more before purchasing. There is just too much modification necessary to market it as "bolt on/vehicle specific" and expect an average buyer to tackle the job. Again, I dont want this to misconstrued as an attack on Dave or Canton. It is solely my opinion on the product at this point and I hope others don't encounter the same issues I did.

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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 02:25 PM
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This is very disappointing. I'm a bit hesitant to install mine even more now.

Is flywheel cover supposed to be spaced out like that? It looks terrible and won't block any water from getting in.
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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 03:40 PM
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I'll be the last to install. I'm gonna sit around and wait to make sure it is doing what it is suppose to first
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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 08:07 PM
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I'm gonna wait a bit too - i'm still on street tires as well. I don't plan on moving much farther than that, maybe NT-01 at some point in the future. I'm also planning on ditching my wing soon.

I'm kind of disappointed by the fly wheel cover thing. It did look kind of cheap. The car still sees 40% street use, and that might change in the future.

I'm going to remove my windage tray, and hopefully I won't see the fitment issues that both gearhead and rain h8r have seen.
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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by yamahaSHO
Is flywheel cover supposed to be spaced out like that? It looks terrible and won't block any water from getting in.
Ideally no, the flywheel cover should sit flush against the bell-housing as it's primary purpose is to protect the clutch and flywheel against the elements (rain, dirt, road debris, etc). However, since the flywheel protrudes past the bell-housing surface, the only solution for me was to use Cantons provided cover is to space it out and have a gap. The more I look at it, the more I am driven to fab a correct one.

Since my car is dedicated for track use, I'm ok with the gap for now even though it looks poor. For a street car I would have been agitated in the extra down time necessary to fabricate a proper cover.
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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 08:42 PM
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A new/modified flywheel cover is fairly easy to make. I ended up doing this on mine
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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gearhead1186
Originally Posted by yamahaSHO' timestamp='1404339955' post='23227829
Is flywheel cover supposed to be spaced out like that? It looks terrible and won't block any water from getting in.
Ideally no, the flywheel cover should sit flush against the bell-housing as it's primary purpose is to protect the clutch and flywheel against the elements (rain, dirt, road debris, etc). However, since the flywheel protrudes past the bell-housing surface, the only solution for me was to use Cantons provided cover is to space it out and have a gap. The more I look at it, the more I am driven to fab a correct one.

Since my car is dedicated for track use, I'm ok with the gap for now even though it looks poor. For a street car I would have been agitated in the extra down time necessary to fabricate a proper cover.
If you end up fabbing something up, please PM me. I'd like to get in on that... I definitely do not have the tools or the mechanical know how. Thanks.
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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 09:22 PM
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me either
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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by redboost10
A new/modified flywheel cover is fairly easy to make. I ended up doing this on mine
Can you post any pics?
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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gearhead1186
Originally Posted by yamahaSHO' timestamp='1404339955' post='23227829
Is flywheel cover supposed to be spaced out like that? It looks terrible and won't block any water from getting in.
Ideally no, the flywheel cover should sit flush against the bell-housing as it's primary purpose is to protect the clutch and flywheel against the elements (rain, dirt, road debris, etc). However, since the flywheel protrudes past the bell-housing surface, the only solution for me was to use Cantons provided cover is to space it out and have a gap. The more I look at it, the more I am driven to fab a correct one.

Since my car is dedicated for track use, I'm ok with the gap for now even though it looks poor. For a street car I would have been agitated in the extra down time necessary to fabricate a proper cover.
I know how it should be designed, however, I was questioning the Canton design. I am thoroughly disappointed!

I would have paid extra money to have the pan extend to mount like stock.
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