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Old May 3, 2010 | 08:10 AM
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Removing camber or at least the camber he has would help corner exit but would it really help mid corner? I thought that's what camber is for?
Old May 3, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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Camber is a steady state grip along with springs, and bar.
Old May 3, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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Yeah but what do you want max mid corner grip for at an autox when you spend less than 1% of a run in that phase...
Old May 3, 2010 | 08:34 AM
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Nick, he asked suggestions on fixing a mid corner push and if fixing that mid corner push is by running less rear camber then you are removing or moving traction yes. I see your point. He might be better off removing some camber to balance the mid corner push and gain some corner exit drive traction.

Makes sense
Old May 3, 2010 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by scareyourpassenger,May 3 2010, 09:23 AM
Camber is a steady state grip along with springs, and bar.
and shocks
Old May 3, 2010 | 08:40 AM
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Mac: Adding rear spring or reconnecting the rear bar reduces grip in the rear but also adds grip in the front.
Old May 3, 2010 | 08:51 AM
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THe car was WAY twitchy with the rear bar... but the 01 has a much bigger rear bar than most.... If I cant dial it out I may switch to a CR or AP2 rear bar. for a sort of middle ground.
Old May 3, 2010 | 09:09 AM
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Dang! Thanks for mentioning the bigger rear stock bar of the AP1. I've been thinking of adding more bar since I'm probably going to be forced into more front bar for a while.

For a car that has a 50/50 weight balance, the most possible grip that can be attained will be achieved when the roll resistance and subsequent loading of the tires is equalized front to rear.
Old May 3, 2010 | 09:11 AM
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Yea 00-01's have the stiffest rear bar.
Old May 3, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by glagola1,May 3 2010, 12:09 PM
For a car that has a 50/50 weight balance, the most possible grip that can be attained will be achieved when the roll resistance and subsequent loading of the tires is equalized front to rear.
And in order to quantify this you better know the camber gain and toe differences from front to rear as well...my car gains a hell of lot more camber in the rear than it does up front when the suspension compresses - which makes it nearly impossible just to analyze from a spring rate and mass point of view.



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