I'm pretty sure he's talking about the oil life indicator that the later cars have. It indicates oil life, not level.

 

 

Kang, I talked to my friend who works at a BMW dealer Service Department. He's a member on a BMW forum and he works as a Customer Service Representative for BMW.

Basically, here are some things he mentioned:

- Your vehicle is a 2007 model. The drivetrain should STILL be under warranty. The Service Department at your dealer should not have made ANY assumptions about the failure until full diagnosis has been performed to confirm that the vehicle was damaged due to user-error or abuse.

- Because your vehicle is still under warranty, diagnostic fees should not be charged to the warranty holder UNTIL there are SOLID evidence suggesting user-error or abuse. The dealers are required by warranty laws to prove user-error or abuse before warranty could be voided.

- As I have stated, "as is" conditions written on the sales contract should have little to no effect on a car which warranty has not yet been lapsed or expired. The "as is" condition on the sales contract is only effective if the seller has explicitly told you that the warranty has already been voided.

- Acura is effectively operated and managed by Honda America Company. Even though you purchased your used Honda S2000 from an Acura Dealer, the technicians should have access to resources and information of Honda vehicles. They have no rights to "assume" and "guess" in their diagnostic procedures. It seems like that the assholes working on your car is making a lot of unjuust assumptions. That's an obvious lack of diligence on their part. Tell them to stop guessing and that you want solid evidence.

What he suggests you to do is to LOGICALLY argue your way out of paying and contact Honda America Co ASAP. Honda America is already flooded with inquiries, complaints, and whatnot. YOu may have to wait a few weeks, if not months, to have your case looked at by Honda America Co. I suggest that you talk to a trusted Honda Dealer ASAP and let them know about the situation. If the Acura dealer refuses to cover your warranty, the Honda dealer may take up the action to cover it for you under Honda's own warranty.

And for your sake, I hope that your warranty is still in effect, and has not yet been voided by Honda. In an attempt to suck your money and avoid any hassles, the Acura dealer you are dealing with may void your warranty with Honda. Let's hope they don't do that just to cover up the fact that they sold you a bad car.

Keep us posted!

 

If they really told you that they are clueless. The car takes like 5.5 quarts of oil. The dipstick I think reads 2 quarts. If no oil is showing on the dipstick can still have 3-3.5 quarts in there.
Seems like they basically scammed you and sold you a lemon. I would def get a lawyer and take them to court for it. There has to be a lemon law from a dealership even if it is sold AS IS

 

Exactly! I think I was able to get my Dipstick to the FULL mark with just 5.3 qt of oil. 5.5 qt is probably really pushing it to borderline above the MAX line on the dipstick.


Yeah, the "as is" clause USUALLY ONLY holds in private transactions of older cars. Dealers selling their own brands of cars that are reasonably new and within the warranty period cannot sell cars "as is", and it wouldn't be recognized in court.

The reason being that many years ago, many dealers sell salvaged and poorly repaired vehicles that are under 5 years old "as is", with the intention of screwing the customers. This is why "as is" conditions do not fly in court.

 

you know what. hell.

maybe you did over-rev the car.

case closed?

 

you've always got something to say about my comments, sometimes i'm a goofball, sometimes i'm sarcastic, sometimes i'm a dumbass. Stop making faces at me.

It's true, i did, it didn't blow the engine, it happen once during the first few months of ownership. I really didn't know about the ap1's propensity to comsume mobil 1. Look, i'm not happy about the fact and yes, i'm embarrassed to mention it, and no, i don't recommend you try this for shiites and giggles, but you will not blow your engine if you drive moderately. It's different if ur at the track hitting 7-8-9rpms. So I don't think the op's problem was low oil, he didn't get a low oil pressure indicator warning. The OP was sold a lemon, plain and simple.

 

The problem is the drivetrain warranty is 5 years OR 60,000 miles. The OP has more than 60,000 miles.

 

I think the manual says that the Oil Pressure Warning Light comes on only if the oil pressure drops completely. That means that even if the engine has just half a quart of oil in it, the oil pressure light may not come on. I have seen cars with less than two quarts of oil in the crankcase. It did NOT kill the engine. It was just very noisy and made a lot of noise.

Luckily for the owner of that car, an oil change solved the problem. The engine probably experienced some premature wearing from that, but after a few years the engine is still running strong, with the UOA proving it to be still in fairly good running condition.

 

I think it comes on below 5 psi. Or at least that is what I have been told. Pointless light really. Should come on at a higher oil pressure to prevent damage not to show you why you just blew your engine lol.