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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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[QUOTE=jeggy,Jul 27 2007, 08:06 PM]imagine 30 years from now, most of us will be in our sixsties. many of us will want to relive the joy and excitement of when we had that awsome sports car when we were younger.
we search and search looking for that one S that was just like the one we had while dating next door nikki in our twenties.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Silverf16,Jul 27 2007, 01:39 PM
Standard S2000 are now selling for $28,500 in Texas.
Work on your haggling skills.. people are buying '07s for $27k out the door.
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by STL,Jul 30 2007, 10:07 AM
I doubt you can hit 9000 rpm in a (stock) '08 CR without blowing engine.
So you've driven one then ?
Old Jul 30, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by STL,Jul 30 2007, 07:07 AM
I doubt you can hit 9000 rpm in a (stock) '08 CR without blowing engine.
The current S2000 engine (and all those since Honda's redesign of the engine starting in the 2004 model year, I believe, to give it more low-end power and torque (This was a very good thing. You don't want to have take any engine up to 5-6,000 rpm to get useable power and torque, which was a major complaint about the original S2000 engine.) redlines at 8,000.



P.S. An engine's "redline" is not the rpm above which the engine will automatically "grenade." It is the rpm at which power and torque peak and and above which start to decrease with increasing rpm. Since power and torque decrease above redline, there's no point in taking an engine any above that, so the engineers establish the redline of an engine at this point.

Old Jul 30, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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quadruple posting...BAN!
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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Dude, you only need to push the button once....



Old Jul 31, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Popeye,Jul 30 2007, 03:58 PM
So you've driven one then ?
No, but I can read. Honda's own press releases have said it will have the same 2.2L that is currently in production -- and it redlines at just 8k.
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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Alan in Nevada,
Perhaps you need to read this:
http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html
The you'll understand..."It is better to make torque at high rpm than at low rpm, because you can take advantage of *gearing*."

What many people don't realize is that 2004s+ gained as much of their new "low-end power" from gearing changes as they did from larger engine. It's just too bad Honda dropped the redline so much to do it. Going to the 2.2L was initially just to appease the typical american buyer (since the rest of the world still got the award-winning 2.0L engine), but it also might have been a cost cutting measure as well (since the piston speed is slower in the new engine). IMO, Honda should have left the engine well enough alone -- as the 9k redline really makes the car a lot of fun to drive -- and just made the tranny changes.
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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^ Thank you STL. I've been saying that since 2004 when they came out with the American-only 2.2L. Why do you guys think the Japanese still get the 2.0L that revs to 9k? It's easy to make torque at a lower RPM without stroking the engine and reducing the redline. You can change the timing, change the gearing, modify the header, modify the exhaust, etc etc etc. Stroking an engine should come with an increase in power, not just a little more torque at a little lower RPM.
Old Jul 31, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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Alan in Nevada,

You also need to read this to better understand the true meaning of an engine's redline: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redline
"Redline refers to the maximum engine speed at which an internal combustion engine or traction motor and its components are designed to operate without causing damage to the components themselves or other parts of the engine."



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