Definitive S2000 CR Thread
[QUOTE=jeggy,Jul 27 2007, 08:06 PM]imagine 30 years from now, most of us will be in our sixsties. many of us will want to relive the joy and excitement of when we had that awsome sports car when we were younger.
we search and search looking for that one S that was just like the one we had while dating next door nikki in our twenties.
we search and search looking for that one S that was just like the one we had while dating next door nikki in our twenties.
Originally Posted by STL,Jul 30 2007, 07:07 AM
I doubt you can hit 9000 rpm in a (stock) '08 CR without blowing engine.
P.S. An engine's "redline" is not the rpm above which the engine will automatically "grenade." It is the rpm at which power and torque peak and and above which start to decrease with increasing rpm. Since power and torque decrease above redline, there's no point in taking an engine any above that, so the engineers establish the redline of an engine at this point.
Originally Posted by Popeye,Jul 30 2007, 03:58 PM
So you've driven one then ?
Honda's own press releases have said it will have the same 2.2L that is currently in production -- and it redlines at just 8k.
Alan in Nevada,
Perhaps you need to read this:
http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html
The you'll understand..."It is better to make torque at high rpm than at low rpm, because you can take advantage of *gearing*."
What many people don't realize is that 2004s+ gained as much of their new "low-end power" from gearing changes as they did from larger engine. It's just too bad Honda dropped the redline so much to do it. Going to the 2.2L was initially just to appease the typical american buyer (since the rest of the world still got the award-winning 2.0L engine), but it also might have been a cost cutting measure as well (since the piston speed is slower in the new engine). IMO, Honda should have left the engine well enough alone -- as the 9k redline really makes the car a lot of fun to drive -- and just made the tranny changes.
Perhaps you need to read this:
http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html
The you'll understand..."It is better to make torque at high rpm than at low rpm, because you can take advantage of *gearing*."
What many people don't realize is that 2004s+ gained as much of their new "low-end power" from gearing changes as they did from larger engine. It's just too bad Honda dropped the redline so much to do it. Going to the 2.2L was initially just to appease the typical american buyer (since the rest of the world still got the award-winning 2.0L engine), but it also might have been a cost cutting measure as well (since the piston speed is slower in the new engine). IMO, Honda should have left the engine well enough alone -- as the 9k redline really makes the car a lot of fun to drive -- and just made the tranny changes.
^ Thank you STL. I've been saying that since 2004 when they came out with the American-only 2.2L. Why do you guys think the Japanese still get the 2.0L that revs to 9k? It's easy to make torque at a lower RPM without stroking the engine and reducing the redline. You can change the timing, change the gearing, modify the header, modify the exhaust, etc etc etc. Stroking an engine should come with an increase in power, not just a little more torque at a little lower RPM.
Alan in Nevada,
You also need to read this to better understand the true meaning of an engine's redline: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redline
"Redline refers to the maximum engine speed at which an internal combustion engine or traction motor and its components are designed to operate without causing damage to the components themselves or other parts of the engine."
You also need to read this to better understand the true meaning of an engine's redline: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redline
"Redline refers to the maximum engine speed at which an internal combustion engine or traction motor and its components are designed to operate without causing damage to the components themselves or other parts of the engine."






