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Old Mar 19, 2008 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Mar 19 2008, 08:10 AM


Good points, but of course this "track car" doesn't have a cage, so it can't be used at a lot of tracks...
You'd have to check with the tracks, but my understanding is that those that don't allow convertibles, will likely allow it with the hardtop. That is substantially the same as a regular fixed roof car.

It's not like a regular M3 or 911 have a cage either.
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Mar 19 2008, 05:53 AM
Maybe Shigeru saw the CR and asked for the Type-S instead...
That's classic
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,Mar 19 2008, 08:09 AM
My problem with this story by Honda is that while the CR was designed for its creator, he's Japanese, and lives in Japan, yet the CR isn't sold in Japan, only in America. Japan gets the Type-S, so am I to assume there's only one CR in Japan?
The USDM market is by far the biggest market for the S2000. It only makes sense to have a CR in your biggest market.
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by pininfarina456,Mar 19 2008, 07:38 AM
The USDM market is by far the biggest market for the S2000. It only makes sense to have a CR in your biggest market.
I don't think anyone wonder's why it is sold in the US...follow the money.

I think the question is why is it NOT sold in Japan if it was this great gift for the creator (who lives in Japan).
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:45 AM
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On a side note I really don't see what all the fuss is about having more power. I would have loved to see more power personally and it would have been great.

IMHO, when you buy a Honda you aren't buying it for raw power or to drag race. Honda will give you the apporpriate amount of power needed to get the job done. Where Honda really shines is the handling, driveability, and maintainability of the car. This is clearly visible in the 15 years of NSX production, where power output didn't change dramatically.

The NSX is a great example because its really the only exotic in the world that is reliable. This is proved by many magazine reports. This is what I am talking about when I refer to maintainability and reliability.

The same philosophy is found in the Prelude also. Honda designed ATTS for the Type SH. Instead of dumping more money into the motor (which debuted in the '93 VTEC) Honda dumped more into handling.

IMHO, if you want raw horsepower, I think of WRX, EVO, Supra...

Not to say whose right and wrong, just different strokes for different folks.

To make it clear, I am personally not happy with the CR, but I can really see what Honda saw with it.
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Ruprecht,Mar 19 2008, 10:43 AM
I think the question is why is it NOT sold in Japan if it was this great gift for the creator (who lives in Japan).
Limited production, why sell something in a market where the profit isn't as great as another. Honda isn't all that popular in Japan, much less the s2k, IMHO.
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Ruprecht,Mar 19 2008, 07:43 AM
I don't think anyone wonder's why it is sold in the US...follow the money.

I think the question is why is it NOT sold in Japan if it was this great gift for the creator (who lives in Japan).
why does everyone question stuff, even its a good thing?

Their loss, lets just take it and run.
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pininfarina456,Mar 19 2008, 07:46 AM
Limited production, why sell something in a market where the profit isn't as great as another. Honda isn't all that popular in Japan, much less the s2k, IMHO.
So, with that logic, why is the Type-S sold in Japan?
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 08:05 AM
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Interesting, i just caught motorweek,which had a segment on the CR. they loved it for what it was and hinted that the S is in line to get another engine.

now motorweek is hardly and authority based on the info they put out on each car, they just test them, review them, and then say something really nice no matter what they find, but biases aside they did mention that.

does that mean they know something of what is coming? Who knows, with Honda you never know till you...know.

I am betting on the end of the S2000 as we know it, the CR model is the swan song, they did it when they changed the miata, put out a club racer version for the last year in limtied quantities. Other car companies have put out light weight versions of their bread and butter cars as well.

I sure hope what comes next is as good.

The CR is a nice car you can track adn drive to and from it. For hard core drivers it is a very cool daily driver.

With all of us...I like what i drive. With The S2000 it is all good in my book, as i have stated before, really nice ride in any form, any AP, etc...
Old Mar 19, 2008 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by GRIP,Mar 19 2008, 07:47 AM
why does everyone question stuff, even its a good thing?

Their loss, lets just take it and run.
Is it the CR a good thing? I think that is the crux of this whole thread.

Folks are citing various reasons why it is the CR is 'good'.

One of the 'good' things about the CR cited was it's heritage with the creator...the retirement gift if you will.

However, if this is a valid premise, it makes you wonder why the creator keeps the Type-S and ships the CR over to the US.



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