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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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Maybe it's the photo but the vinyl looks cheap. The logo is really tacky as well. I'd rather have a simple solution that actually covers the frame, not just the cloth are above my head.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DaPhatty,Dec 2 2009, 09:46 AM
Maybe it's the photo but the vinyl looks cheap. The logo is really tacky as well. I'd rather have a simple solution that actually covers the frame, not just the cloth are above my head.
Agreed...


I finished a cloth model that lines the entire roof, but i need to make it in vinyl and secure it correctly to get the fitment right... I out of vinyl probably going to get some this evening.

I'm a little pessimistic about this though. It looks like it will be extremely difficult to get taught and eliminate big wrinkles because of the shape of the roof... we'll see.

I am sure the i can make one the covers the hinges etc. in the front
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Maybe sew in some stiff metal wire to keep the shape of the headliner?

(Working on installing an OEM headliner in a 57 Chevy that has bows in the headliner to keep it nice looking)
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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I have installed the German roof liner in my 2001. I think I installed it in 2003 or something. It is a great addition. Reduces thermal effects of the bare roof, adds some sound deadining(sp?) [as we know the convertible roof stops sound like tissue paper] and is worth the price. It had nearly 100% coverage of the exposed roof and mechanism.
That said, there were issues with the liner as it was designed. The attachments were velcroed inside of the top front window frame and along the side(the glue gave up the ghost on the first 100 degree day). Plus the attachment system along the bottom rear was very difficult to install due to its location. The liner, after about 6 years of top down sun exposure is dissolving and bleached out in the exposed areas and I plan to remove the liner for next years top down season.
I think a little less area coverage, with just the top fabric and perhaps down to around the back window (not sure how the glass window looks) would be easier and not so expensive or complicated. The linkages do not need to be covered if that complicates the construction.
The liner material should be slightly elastic, I suspect, because I think it may hang down when closed if not.
I would say don't add any decorations to the liner. It is barely seen with the top up and when down could be difficult to make look good due to the folding.
Just make it strong, sun resistant and reasonably easy to put on snugly.
I would buy one.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gbaker,Dec 2 2009, 02:43 PM
I have installed the German roof liner in my 2001. I think I installed it in 2003 or something. It is a great addition. Reduces thermal effects of the bare roof, adds some sound deadining(sp?) [as we know the convertible roof stops sound like tissue paper] and is worth the price. It had nearly 100% coverage of the exposed roof and mechanism.
That said, there were issues with the liner as it was designed. The attachments were velcroed inside of the top front window frame and along the side(the glue gave up the ghost on the first 100 degree day). Plus the attachment system along the bottom rear was very difficult to install due to its location. The liner, after about 6 years of top down sun exposure is dissolving and bleached out in the exposed areas and I plan to remove the liner for next years top down season.
I think a little less area coverage, with just the top fabric and perhaps down to around the back window (not sure how the glass window looks) would be easier and not so expensive or complicated. The linkages do not need to be covered if that complicates the construction.
The liner material should be slightly elastic, I suspect, because I think it may hang down when closed if not.
I would say don't add any decorations to the liner. It is barely seen with the top up and when down could be difficult to make look good due to the folding.
Just make it strong, sun resistant and reasonably easy to put on snugly.
I would buy one.
Thank for the info!!!!! I haven't heard any explanation of German liner's installation. I have noticed that it is reinforced with cross members. The design i'm working on doesn't incorporate anything like that, but as things progress over the next few days i may use need to. For now, the area over your head is taught, so it probably won't need one. I am concerned about the area around the window- that may need something to keep it from sagging and blocking your view.

Blendo- That idea has potential! It will be somewhat tricky to use due to the collapsing top and the obvious properties of wire , but that may be an idea for the area across the top of the window...



Thanks to everyone for their ideas and encouragements. After the 6th time i honked the horn with my butt and hit my head on the roof, i was ready to quit.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 04:58 PM
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Alright... This is a work in progress. I still have issues to work out with the back window, but the fitment on everything else is pretty close. I just threw a bunch of duct tape on there to give everyone an idea of where this is going. The velcro i ordered still hasn't come, so i can't fit it any better tonight. I'm pretty happy with it at this point. I believe this is actually going to work.

The liner is made in 2 sections that will be sewn together in the final product. The vinyl i picked up today is a little darker, and it is much glossier. That's why the pieces are 2 different shades. I prefer the lighter one- it's a better match, and i don't like the glossier finish. In fact, i want to use a matte finish because of glare issues, and the gloss just looks tacky. What do you guys think?





I also need to give credit where credit is due. I have an assistant...

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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by suzuka-blue-s2k,Nov 30 2009, 08:51 PM
Here is a link for the liner I saw. Supposedly they had a group buy for it a few years ago. But if you could come up with something like this, it would be awesome!

https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.ph...ic=301548&st=0
Link to german headliner has moved, you have to drill-in to the Honda>S2000 area, but try this: S2000 Headliner

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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 06:12 AM
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^^^ That looks really good. The black liner didn't seem to fit quite that well. I don't know if i can match that fitment, but mine also won't match the $550 price tag or be as difficult to install...

I spent a few hours playing with the sewing machine yesterday, and i learned 2 things: I hate sewing machines, and they hate me. I wasn't satisfied with the quality of the stitching at all...

I worked out a deal with a seamstress to do the final stitching, so that's not going to be a problem. We can do the stitching in any color you would like. I have never seen a CR's interior, but i will do my best to match the yellow stitching if someone requests it.

I also found an embroiderer that i really like. I discussed the details with him yesterday, and it looks like all the ideas i had in the first post will work out. As soon as i am finished with liner above, i'll get to work on the "S." I imagine most people will be interested in a plain liner, but adding a custom colored "S" will not be expensive. It will be an inexpensive way to round out the interior if you already have a theme going. I have a bit of a silver/aluminum theme going- i'm going with a small silver S placed near the front handle with black and silver embroidery. That is if i come up with an S that really looks good. I usually have a pretty good eye for what will looking classy and what will look cheap and cheesy.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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So have you made any progress from from the pics you posted last? Seems like you made a good choice having a seamstress do the final stichings. That way you know its good quality.
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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Can it be used for a mugen hardtop?
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