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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 07:29 AM
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I thought it was the tires that makes the S spin out, not the car necessarily? Since the S02s don't have water channels in the tread?
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by NNY S2k,Sep 27 2005, 10:53 AM
People have to learn to drive to the conditions of the road. There are people driving on snow/ice, with snow tires, and not having accidents because they "take it easy". Why don't people do the same in the rain?
Take it easy and driving in the rain is no problem.

Car in the pic looks like it got hit pretty damn hard. Good to hear there were only minor injuries.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by my_s2k,Sep 27 2005, 10:29 AM
I thought it was the tires that makes the S spin out, not the car necessarily? Since the S02s don't have water channels in the tread?
Tires are never solely responsible for a car spinning out. Cars spin out for a combination of reason, including: road/weather conditions, tire wear/tread, and MOST IMPORTANTLY - Driver input/error. I've driven in rain plenty of times without losing traction. I've spun the car once in the rain, and it was entirely due to driver error.

An important point to remember is that the equipment is not to blame.

Anyway, glad that nobody was hurt badly in the accident. Good luck with insurance and with whatever replacement car you choose.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RACER,Sep 26 2005, 11:44 PM
This car is really pretty good in the wet with the exception of standing water at speed's of 65+ mph. 70 mph in standing water in this car even with relatively new S0-2's
You running anything different now in the wet weather?

<-- Thinking of getting 2nd set of tires for the winter(if not a beater).
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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Besides the already mentioned grade school writing, there are truly a huge collection of really goofy statements in here. Examples:
mini vans..... I hate those F!@#ers
prob on the phone and speeding ... did the cops sight the minvan for unsafe speed for conditions
Already commented on this one.
I dont think I'll ever take the sucker out when the weather looks bad.
"Oh look! There's a black cloud in the sky. Better take the other car."
Is there even a passagenger side airbag in this car?
Coming from an owner, yet.
dont drive the s in rain if u dont have to. period.
No comment needed here.
does the 350z also have the same problems as us?
It is not a "problem" with the car. It is a function of driver awareness and skill.
I thought it was the tires that makes the S spin out, not the car necessarily? Since the S02s don't have water channels in the tread?
ALL street legal tires have rain channels. What do you think those "V" patterns are in your tires?

Blame your dog or your mother for a bad upbringing or your job or the "powers that be", but don't blame the car or the tires or the wet roads.
It's good that in this case, that "driver error" didn't get the occupants killed and everyone can live to see another day. These things happen. Let's reflect back and see if we can learn something from it and perhaps see how it might be prevented next time.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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I think one reason Honda went to the RE 050's as the 17" tire of choice for this car, they are quite good in the wet, I've driven in quite a lot of water in my S, monsoon downpours every afternoon, not to mention hurricanes, and I have only spun this car once (MY2000 with RE750's) trying to avoid a huge chunk of debris in the highway (in the rain), way too much steering (panic) input on my part sent me off the road backwards at about 75. Amazingly both the car and myself were uninjured.
I'm glad you're OK, and maybe this will serve as a lesson to someone to be a bit more careful in the rain. I think everyone needs to know the limits of their car in a 'safe' environment before they try approaching the limits in traffic, and I think that's true of any car, not just an S2000, this is far from the squirreliest car I've ever driven (a 1984 911SC I had comes immediately to mind.) But for those unfamiliar with the handling characteristics of RWD--learn the car before hot-dogging on the public roads, especially with reduced traction due to rain, ice, worn/cheap tires etc.

Cheers, Mike
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by happs22,Sep 27 2005, 07:46 AM
An important point to remember is that the equipment is not to blame.
The equipment may not be entirely to blame, but when we're talking about tire selection and upkeep, it can contribute to the problem. Perhaps incorrect tire selection may be a form of driver error, who knows? I do know that on the AP1, installing aftermarket tires sized 225 in the rear will REDUCE the contact patch compared to the factory S02s. That increases oversteer, and can create a dangerous situation in low grip conditions. There's a famous thread on this subject here.

Perhaps many of us have forgotten about this since the introduction of the AP2, but there are still new owners buying old AP1s who may have never heard of it.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainMike,Sep 27 2005, 09:27 AM
I think one reason Honda went to the RE 050's as the 17" tire of choice for this car, they are quite good in the wet
This is good to hear!
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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Stop judging people for their writing abilities or inabilities this site, its for S2000 enthusiast

I'm not here for english.com....... please stop criticizing, and go to a writing website

short of just typing letter with out any meaning .... oiejnvnbo bnbnbnbn nvnvjjv and making no comprehendable sentance, leave people alone

if you have the need to correct things or point out wrongs... send a PM. Thier engish skiil might be short ... maybe they can drive.

So you can write... maybe you have trouble driving or shifting... no one is mocking you for that

be nice.....
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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Sorry you had to learn this lesson a hard way.

You're lucky you didn't end up killing someone else

The S is a tricky bitch in the rain, if you don't know how to handle a RWD car, it will bite you. But really it comes down to common sense, don't drive like a maniac in wet conditions and you'll be ok. Hope you learned something from this...
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