You should really go read all my other posts...

Andre

 

Like I said... all of you need to understand the context of what I'm writing and not what YOU THINK I'm trying to say.

Andre

 

Well, if you've got over a hundred grand under the hood...

 

too soon junior

 

S2000 is SLOW ... but is hot and sexy
- brings so many attention
- is unique and are rare unique here in my country we are only 5
- s2000 have so nice interior design
- s2000 is a street car for circuit , winding roads and auto x porpuse not for drags
- s2000 with his 237 hp is good enought to make the fight to many cars in straightlines and wait for the CURVES
- S2000 i think that is special have his own category or is like the m3 e36 , lotus elise , porsche 911 , nsx is a far for pure enthusiasts .


vs the rest of the world

- cobalt ss wrx srt 4 hyunday tiburon sti evo 350 z solstice eclipse etxx
- cobalt ugly but fast
- wrx fast but looks like a 4 door sedan
- tiburon common men is hyunday
- sti faster sedan 4 door
- evo looks like a cap
- 350 z (GAS GUZZLER ) POOR hp per litter , heavy big , isnt fun , not reliable , they change the models like i change my pants
- eclipse WATEVER

i still love my S2K and this love is going to be for a long time i prefer to be in a true sport cars that a sedan or a FWD or a coupe wanna be sport car........... my 2 cents



disculpen mi ingles pero soy paname

 

Maybe you should edit your main post to more accurately reflect what you're trying to say then. Here's what I gather from your first post:

1) Your concerned about straight line times. EVERY comparison in your main post is about straight line statistics and worrying about your reputation when you get beat in a line with any of the listed cars. I don't see anything about application on the track.

2) You're comparing a high revving NA 4-liter to 3 factory turbo charged 4-liters....two of which are FWD and one of which is AWD. None of them are in the same class as our car. What's so embarassing about being in the same class as these cars anyway? You should feel proud that it takes a turbo charger to hang with our car. If an S2000 throws on ANY FI application at base boost, it would surpass all those cars by a long shot.

I don't think people's responses have anything to do with making their own definitions of your main post. Your main post seems plain and simple to me. If you meant something different, then you need to rephrase it because I don't get how anyone can come up with anything different based on what you've posted.


...this is why i never browse the S2000 talk forum anymore...

 

My original post states that I think Honda needs to upgrade in the power department. And those cars listed there are strictly there for reference to show what others are doing to keep up with the times.

And not all comparisons were strictly straight line... there are many posts in here about Auto-Xing and road courses.

Andre

 

[QUOTE=s2kwhitepanama,Nov 7 2008, 11:53 AM] S2000 is SLOW ... but is hot and sexy
- brings so many attention
- is unique and are rare unique here in my country we are only 5
- s2000 have so nice interior design
- s2000 is a street car for circuit , winding roads and auto x porpuse not for drags
- s2000 with his 237 hp is good enought to make the fight to many cars in straightlines and wait for the CURVES
- S2000 i think that is special have his own category or is like the m3 e36 , lotus elise , porsche 911 , nsx is a far for pure enthusiasts .


vs the rest of the world

- cobalt ss wrx srt 4 hyunday tiburon sti evo 350 z solstice eclipse etxx
- cobalt ugly but fast
- wrx fast but looks like a 4 door sedan
- tiburon common men is hyunday
- sti faster sedan 4 door
- evo looks like a cap
- 350 z (GAS GUZZLER ) POOR hp per litter , heavy big , isnt fun , not reliable , they change the models like i change my pants
- eclipse WATEVER

i still love my S2K and this love is going to be for a long time i prefer to be in a true sport cars that a sedan or a FWD or a coupe wanna be sport car........... my 2 cents



disculpen mi ingles pero soy paname

 

I guess I don't understand what you're trying to say

The S is more or less a 5-year-old (AP2) or 9-year-old (AP1) design. Probably more like 9, since the AP2 revisions were minor tweaks compared to what a complete redesign would be. Yes, there are now new cars that have better performance numbers and cost less than the S; there's no doubt about that.

But I didn't buy this car for performance numbers. I bought it for its complete driving experience, and I think many other owners (and people who are buying new ones now) are in the same boat. Like I said before, if Honda is happy with the sales numbers then there's no real reason for them to upgrade it, or care if a Cobalt SS has a faster 1/4 time, auto-x time, or track time than the S.

In a way, the S is like a modern classic car that still just happens to be in production. It has great performance numbers by year 2000 standards, but is more like average by today's standards. It was never conceived to be in production for this long, and Honda obviously had no real plans for a next-generation S2k when it came out. But they continue to sell it because people continue to buy it -- as it is. Just my $0.02.

 

i think that the 2010 S should come 2.2 260 hp 100lbs less thats like 13.8 or 13.5 1/4 mile and bring a feature like turbo at 12 or 8 lbs and bring 300 hp to the wheels and would be like 12.9 13.2 and would cost like 4 or 5 grands more