S2ks are in trouble
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Originally Posted by s2krey,Nov 6 2008, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 8kGoodENuff,Nov 6 2008, 10:25 AM
Explain this to me... E36 M3... handles just as good as an S2k on the track and then the straight comes, and you watch an E36 M3 (which is old now) pull away slowly, but still pulls away.
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I believe the S2K and the E36 have the same stock HP numbers.
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Originally Posted by AP2Berlina,Nov 6 2008, 02:25 PM
^^ lol...they aren't.. but its still nice to have a little extra power
and considering some of the cars andre listed are thousands less..you would hope the S would be able to outrun some of them..especially since the S is defined as a sports car...whereas the others are 5 door hatchbacks and eco coupes...and dont get me wrong i think those others are great cars ..especially the speed3
still it is sad..but i still love my S over those other cars
also, i know our cars aren't meant for the drag strip...and you might consider that those other cars are..
.but those cars, especially the cobalt ss are great in the turns as well..
it might have been car and driver or some other magazine where the cobalt and speed 3 ran equally impressive times compared to the S on a nice road course ..and if im not wrong it might have been a CR
they called the SS one of the best handling cars period....they said to call it one of the best handling fwd drive cars is an understatement
truth is cars are just getting better...handling..power ..everything
and considering some of the cars andre listed are thousands less..you would hope the S would be able to outrun some of them..especially since the S is defined as a sports car...whereas the others are 5 door hatchbacks and eco coupes...and dont get me wrong i think those others are great cars ..especially the speed3
still it is sad..but i still love my S over those other cars
also, i know our cars aren't meant for the drag strip...and you might consider that those other cars are..
.but those cars, especially the cobalt ss are great in the turns as well..
it might have been car and driver or some other magazine where the cobalt and speed 3 ran equally impressive times compared to the S on a nice road course ..and if im not wrong it might have been a CR
they called the SS one of the best handling cars period....they said to call it one of the best handling fwd drive cars is an understatement
truth is cars are just getting better...handling..power ..everything
Cobalt SS at a couple of Auto-Xs that I've been to are doing awesome, running up there with us S2k guys. And I'm not professional but I can definitely handle my own on an Auto-X and they're keeping up for thousands of dollars less.
Believe me... I love the S for everything it is, but I was just trying to show that Honda could really step it up already (8 years later, almost 9 without any changes to motor power) and keep up with the rest of the automotive world.
I'm jus saying that I think it would be more appealing to the customer to see a higher horsepower motor that comes with the amazing handling.
Andre
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Originally Posted by JLUDE,Nov 6 2008, 02:27 PM
I'm going to guess that the extra 50-70 ft lbs of torque, ftw! I believe the S2K and the E36 have the same stock HP numbers.
I believe the S2K and the E36 have the same stock HP numbers.They are pretty equal in the lower speeds, but once the speeds get over 100, wind resistance and other factors are just too great and the torque putout is just small compared to the M3, so they creep away ever so slowly.
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lets seee... 08 CR + KW highboost s/c = $46000
making it a car which is track ready with (est)420hp to the crank and a power to weight ratio superior the nissan GTR and will keep up with 911 TT on a road course with honda reliablity....al for half the price
Sounds like a winner to me.
making it a car which is track ready with (est)420hp to the crank and a power to weight ratio superior the nissan GTR and will keep up with 911 TT on a road course with honda reliablity....al for half the price
Sounds like a winner to me.
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Originally Posted by suprmonky73,Nov 6 2008, 01:21 PM
haha oh the irony of your avatar heather 
...just kidding, even tho i heard you posted a pretty awesome time!
...just kidding, even tho i heard you posted a pretty awesome time!
I gotta know what my baby can do with me behind the wheel!
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For what Honda charges for an S2k CR ($42,000 I believe), all I have to do is buy a set of Bilstein PSS9s, which have the same spring rate as the CR and are adjustable dampening, and buy thicker sway bars for around $450 for both front and rear combined.
Now for that much money... does that justify being outrun by a Cobalt SS or MS3?... which are probably $15,000 cheaper. For that much money, there should be AT LEAST 300 hp under the hood.
Andre
Now for that much money... does that justify being outrun by a Cobalt SS or MS3?... which are probably $15,000 cheaper. For that much money, there should be AT LEAST 300 hp under the hood.
Andre
