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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by xviper,Oct 19 2004, 06:53 PM
How long was the breaker bar will determine how much torque you were able to apply to the nut using all your strength and weight. For example, if you had a 2 foot long breaker bar and you put all your weight on it (not saying this is what you did), you could conceivably put over 200 lb/ft of torque on that nut. You obviously didn't as this would have snapped those studs off by now.
I'm only going to guess that you were able to apply far more than the required 80 lb/ft. The problem is that with too much torque, you will have stretched the threads on the lug. If this is so, then 80 lb/ft may not be enough to do the job for you now. You can "very roughly" test how much torque is on there from your last tightening. Put a big torque wrench on one of the nuts and slowly apply torque (to screw it on). Go up to 80. Does it move? If it doesn't, keep going to 90, then 100, BUT NOT MORE. If it does not move by 100, you may have caused too much stud stretching. What to do then? Well, let's not fret too much for the time being till you find out what's happened.
i just went outside a checked them. i have the torque wrench with the turn dial on it, not the needle one.

i set it at 80 ft lbs and they were fine. when i get the volks put on in a month or two ill see what happens. so far the only damage is my mentality in not knowing to torque the lug nuts.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 05:34 PM
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I had the plastic rings on my ce28n's and they broke into little pieces after half a track day. Well, the rears lasted a little longer but still broke at the end of the day.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Guedo512,Oct 19 2004, 05:57 PM
i just went outside a checked them. i have the torque wrench with the turn dial on it, not the needle one.

i set it at 80 ft lbs and they were fine. when i get the volks put on in a month or two ill see what happens. so far the only damage is my mentality in not knowing to torque the lug nuts.
Guedo, by doing what you just did, all you showed was that they were "at least" 80 lb/ft. Go set it at 90 and see if it clicks. Then try 100 and see if it clicks. At each setting, if it clicks, all it means is that it is at least that torque. It could be much, much higher. With a clicker type, you can risk going higher and higher by 10 lb/ft increments. As long as it clicks, you aren't torquing it any more than what it is already at. I wouldn't go much past 120. That's "at least" 50% MORE than what Honda recommends. You probably don't want to know how much more than this it really is.

ps. A clarification: It must click WITHOUT turning the lug. If it moved the lugnut, then you are good and that's what the actual torque is.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by xviper,Oct 19 2004, 08:38 PM
Guedo, by doing what you just did, all you showed was that they were "at least" 80 lb/ft. Go set it at 90 and see if it clicks. Then try 100 and see if it clicks. At each setting, if it clicks, all it means is that it is at least that torque. It could be much, much higher. With a clicker type, you can risk going higher and higher by 10 lb/ft increments. As long as it clicks, you aren't torquing it any more than what it is already at. I wouldn't go much past 120. That's "at least" 50% MORE than what Honda recommends. You probably don't want to know how much more than this it really is.
ill go check in a lil bit. ill do the 90 and 100 ft lbs. thanks again, you know too much info for the boards.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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Guedo, please read my edit in bold.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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XVIPER, at 80 ft lbs they just clicked. I just checked them at 90 ft lbs, and their was slight movement, but i didn't let it get to the click point. i should be ok i hope.
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Old Oct 19, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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You're safe!
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Old Oct 22, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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I would like to hear what the dealer of these wheels (Evolution Motorsports) recommend regarding hub rings for this application, since they seem to have monopoly power over the US supply of this product.
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