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Old 07-17-2005, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by nookiemonster,Jul 16 2005, 11:23 PM
WRONG.
Check again, the Mustang sold over 1,000,000 in it's first two years.

As of 1984 the GM had sold 750,000 Corvettes
http://www.fatherlarryscorvetteshop.com/new_page_3.htm
The 1 millionth Vette was made in '92
http://www.uib.no/People/mpkso/vetthist.htm

I know the Miata is in the book but it's not the best selling sports car. We can argue if the Mustang counts but the Corvette certainly does.
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I talked to a GM insider, the solstice is still not in production yet, but it scheduled to start in the next week or 2. Current cars are pre-productions cars.

And if you live in detroit or windsor, DAH of course you might see them! GM has built about 50+ pre-production models for testing.
Old 07-17-2005, 06:55 AM
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Firstly the mustang is NOT a sports car IMO.

Secondly sports car can be interpreted strictly as a 2-seat convertible that leaves the vette vert behind the miata.

I know a lot of people call a M3 or a Mustang a sports car but IMO anything with 4 seats is not a sports car with the only exception of a 911.
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Originally Posted by rai,Jul 17 2005, 06:55 AM
Firstly the mustang is NOT a sports car IMO.

Secondly sports car can be interpreted strictly as a 2-seat convertible that leaves the vette vert behind the miata.

I know a lot of people call a M3 or a Mustang a sports car but IMO anything with 4 seats is not a sports car with the only exception of a 911.
Exactly.

I would argue that the Mustang could be considered a sports car but that's a different conversation. Really it's a very subjective definition. The Mustang has many eliminates of a sports car even if the Fox bodied version was kept around way to long. I think you would have to pick a very narrow definition of sports car to leave out the Vette but include the 911. Given the 911 has rear seats I think it would be hard to come up with a definition that includes it but doesn't include the Mustang.

I also said that if we use the roadster definition (2 seats, drop top or no top)of a sports car then the Miata is the best seller in the world. Then again if I redefine roadster to exclude cars with roll up side windows and attached convertible top frames then the Miata is out.

If I define sports cars as road cars with 2 seats and engines that rev to at least 8200 RPM I think the S2000 is the best seller ever.

Basically, I think it's nothing more than a half truth to call the Miata the best selling sports car as the Corvette has clearly out sold it. I suspect the 911 has also outsold it but I'm not going to try to find the numbers. I suspect most people would include the Corvette and 911 in the sports car category.
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[QUOTE=rockville,Jul 17 2005, 10:20 AM] Basically, I think it's nothing more than a half truth to call the Miata the best selling sports car as the Corvette has clearly out sold it.
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Originally Posted by rockville,Jul 14 2005, 03:58 AM
So how did you get your hands on GM internal marketing strategies?
He did start with "IMO".
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Originally Posted by watermelonman,Jul 17 2005, 06:38 PM
He did start with "IMO".
Fair enough
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