they quoted me 649 for the service pack on new regardless of what it costs them

First Registration Fee 55.00
Carpet Mats 115.00
Tow Bar - Bike Rack 695.00
Rubber Mats - Boot Mat Part number:08P11-TYF 125.00
12 Months First Year Alt. Fuel Rate CO2 (0) 0.00
Honda Service Plan (5 Services) 649.00

 

For those interested a little vid from Johnny

 

Further interesting reading how after a couple of decades of mmgw (man made global warming) hysteria our electricity national supply/grid has been seriously weakened and destabilised by misguided policies, with a subborning of regulators originally set up with the consumers interests as prime now with the 'woke' green agenda at heart. We can and do devise increasingly costly and complex layers of schemes to patch over the problems (i.e. that you can neither turn off nor on the solar and wind generated power; and that there are progressively fewer traditional fossil/nuclear generation sets to bail the system out). These *add* to the costs so that green power *is* more expensive. All of this is a consequence of a 'woke' green agenda based on the distorted 'science' that is now taken as gospel and even taught in our schools. In the immediate future only the north west of Wales will manage because of the Dinorwig pumped storage generating set, built before green madness ruled the land.

People who say they are following the science obviously have never heard of the pied piper of Hamelin and wouldn't know the difference anyway.

Have a read of this: The Brink of Darkness: Britain's fragile power grid.

 

That doc comes from a group run by a politician with a degree in politics who is a leave voter yet resides in France and thinks he knows something about the climate
if you believe pumping out pollution is a good thing to do I don't know where to start really, regardless of whether you believe there is a risk we are changing the climate our cities have filthy air
regardless of that, I didn't buy the car to save a polar bear, I bought it because as a total cost of ownership prop it is possibly a winner, it's good to drive and I won't poison any kids on the school run. And it's not front wheel drive
climate change you won't have an impact on as an individual really will you?

 

But the science makes sense . Yes our cities / roads have filthy air which should be fixed but my eyes have been opened about the PC 'green' thrust. Our power network has been seriously undermined (no pun intended) which I am investigating as I look into the stability and pricing of electrical power. It looks like 20 odd years of man made global warming bullshit has had a destablising effect. What was a network of switch on and off able units is no longer. The green power generators sun and wind can't be switched on OR off. They are at the mercy of the weather which no one can predict. So our power network too is at the mercy of the weather. We are in deep shit.

 

The alternative of burning more coal isn't a solution though is it and I think until recently EON had a coal station they hardly ever used.. (Ratcliffe on Soar)
Whether we need nuclear as a back up or other options I will leave to someone else but clean will be nicer to my lungs. I never liked nuclear but equally...

There are only 50 years or so of oil left so we need to shift off the black stuff
I think I read somewhere they wanted to convert ROS to some sort of low carbon power plant using waste but no idea of the details.. it rarely has any steam clouds whenever I see it

 

Once vehicle to grid charging arrives, they'll be able to suck all of that energy out of your electric car to 'stabilise' the grid they broke.

Or if you make a post like this...

With a gallon of squirt, I can at least run from the thought police.

The irony is in really filthy cities (India or CHI-NA, as Bad Orange Man used to say), catalyst-equipped vehicles suck in all the industrial fallout and shit out cleaner air!

Our cities are far better than they've ever been - the London smog deaths changed a lot. The rise in allergies is thought due to too much clean living - the immune system gets de-sensitised and gets 'bored' and that is exacerbated by too much carbohydrate & linoleic acid in the modern diet.

 

My point is we have been blinded by false science, which has been universally accepted and adopted into an over-riding policy which has the knock on effect of affecting the resilience of our nation grid. Ironically within the same time frame that EVs will be our only choice! There was already one such event in May 2019 and although complex and expensive 'solutions' are devised blackouts could become a regular occurence. As the switch-on-and-off controllable power generation element is reduced still further and the always-on-or-off uncontrollable solar and wind power element increases, the risk and duration of blackouts will increase. Tying our power generation to the weather is crazy. Nuclear is controllable to some extent i.e. 30-100% of rated output but not super rapidly. If we were to ignore the global warming greenhouse gases hocus pocus, gas fired power stations would be a good option I believe. Yes, no more filthy coal power stations - note, that undersea proposal is steel grade coal not low grade power station stuff.

I agree all you say about air pollution in cities but the man made global warming threat is a man made myth. The increasing amount of virtually uncontrollable solar and wind generation will have the effect of prolonging and exascerbating national grid blackouts going forward. That was the subject of that paper I posted earlier (whether or not the chairman of the group lives in France was a 'leaver' and has a degree in politics or not.) Read the message not the messenger's boss's politics/education/domicile. Another example of that where I have changed my view is Piers Corbyn re man made global warming.

With longer and more blackouts increasingly likely we should keep our e's charged and look forward to a v2g capability one day (although with it comes the ogre of central control.) I would much prefer v2mh (vehicle to my house) so that individuals can choose to spend money to ride out prolonged grid blackouts. Being able to use say half of the 'e' battery would get this household through several hours of blackout even in winter.

 

Some of we were blinded...the more world-weary of us saw through it a long time ago.

Yes, that three-pin on your e's dash could well prove a life-saver.

There's an article today on Watts from a guy in Nordrhein-Westfalen concerned that this bout of Siberian weather might just trigger it; Europe's most industrialised economy has been brought to its knees by this greenwash. That's why they're moving production to the East of Europe.

Just how evil are some of these fraudsters? There ought to be a court in Nuremberg and a nice hotel in Guantanamo for their crimes against humanity. Bring back Lindy England...

 

Christ ipads are shit, i’ve written this post 3 times to cut and paste links and it keeps ****ing off

apple twats

anyway, that ROS coal station has incredible production capacity but not done much lately, it is 2000MW according to wiki

to compare a solar farm near me (not huge) does 5MW

the waste plant they plan to convert ROS to does 50MW so small wonder its low CO2

it needs an infra upgrade but equally it will be a few years before demand really starts to accelerate and the demand can be met well by no switch off renewables with an incentive to outside peak