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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Nottm_S2
Yeah I don't know whether they will last beyond 10 years.

The clever cruise is very expensive to fix generally, my mate who runs a body shop sees many write offs for it.

I agree re distance, it does get closer than I would too

bike rack fitted, impressed with it and it even tilts to let the dog in


son has wheel envy now
At least he has a rear crud guard to keep his arse clean
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Old Apr 9, 2021 | 07:55 AM
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I think the blue suits the car.
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Old Apr 10, 2021 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gaddafi
I think the blue suits the car.
The missus chose this as she often reminds me but I have to agree with you both
They are suffering very heavy depreciation, I saw quite a few £30k cars still only 8 months old at 23k ish on Honda approved used earlier. Still not bargains by any stretch I admit but beats a ****ing Renno or a Corsa any day for me
the missus likes the new Mokka. There is zero hope for some

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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 12:33 AM
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Honda's done some lovely shades of blue over the years and it's one of those.

I can imagine these will fall out of bed pretty quickly. The only ones that seem not to are Teslas, but then their aficionados often seem mentally deranged.

If Toyota does succeed with its solid-state battery (promised for '25) then you'll hear the whistling as they descend.

The only thing the e really lacks is a centre armrest - I suppose it'd spoil the lines.
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Nick Graves
Honda's done some lovely shades of blue over the years and it's one of those.

I can imagine these will fall out of bed pretty quickly. The only ones that seem not to are Teslas, but then their aficionados often seem mentally deranged.

If Toyota does succeed with its solid-state battery (promised for '25) then you'll hear the whistling as they descend.

The only thing the e really lacks is a centre armrest - I suppose it'd spoil the lines.
One can always rent to decouple depreciation from sleep patterns. I have taken a chance with the Yaris, my first new car for a while, but I'm confident any pain won't be JLR or Maserati sized.
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 02:03 AM
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Fear of heavy deprec is what motivated me to go ex demo.

Everyone is obsessed by range. Well not everyone.

I tend to keep cars quite a long time so over that period it will look a lot less significant.

I think after 10 years it will be worth feck all which is the way of these things now, most people seem to prefer PCP or whatever other rental drug they can get but the maths simply didn't stack up on that for me, think they wanted about 16k to run for 3 years on those deals so it felt weighted to Honda.. year 1 will be worst hit and cars, by August, will be say 22k ish. I suppose 16k might have been ok after all but mine had dropped 5k before I bought so...

Its not a GR is it? The car of the moment that
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Nottm_S2
Fear of heavy deprec is what motivated me to go ex demo.

Everyone is obsessed by range. Well not everyone.

I tend to keep cars quite a long time so over that period it will look a lot less significant.

I think after 10 years it will be worth feck all which is the way of these things now, most people seem to prefer PCP or whatever other rental drug they can get but the maths simply didn't stack up on that for me, think they wanted about 16k to run for 3 years on those deals so it felt weighted to Honda.. year 1 will be worst hit and cars, by August, will be say 22k ish. I suppose 16k might have been ok after all but mine had dropped 5k before I bought so...

Its not a GR is it? The car of the moment that
£16K for three years sounds daft to me - for what's actually on offer. As you say, over 10, insignificant. It will be interesting to see the point at which it is next to worthless without a new Duracell though. Might be a bit less than ten years. Yes GR. But mine not leased. Mum has the shopping cars. I cannot do leasing - it does my head in thinking about damage/handing it back and arguing, etc. I find hiring a car from Avis stressful enough.
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 06:07 AM
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Totally with you on that re leasing

GR will be much fun I expect and not daft money to run.

I reckon a new batt will be sub £5k in 2031. They are supposed to last quite well if you cycle them which I do, for me a phone batt lasts 2 years but that is 700+ charges absolute abuse, daily multiple charges etc.

I reckon 1-2 a week in this so at the point honda warranty starts to expire it might be pretty bad I agree. Tesla's seem to do quite well but not much wiggle room here
dunno what the trade in is on the old batt



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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 08:26 AM
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Interested in any thoughts on cycling the batt to maximise life.
Up to now been charging when power is cheap brought oop i'Yorkshire.
Almost always up to 100% from anything as low as 33% or as high as 66%.
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 11:21 AM
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It warrants thought I agree
found this which is a decent read. Honda warranty is 8y/100k but only 70%
https://www.geotab.com/blog/ev-battery-health/

Batteries are hugely cheaper than they were 10 years ago and let's hope that trend continues.

​​​​​​Not simple but the above gives some comfort I think
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