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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 04:20 AM
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And how much ancilliary power you draw / how cold it is .....
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 05:46 AM
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All good sense. Temperature is a factor. My battery storage in the unheated garage has a 5C degrees cut out. Happened once last winter. Garage is integral with the house construction so if I get any grief I can just wedge the door of the utility ajar (sprung shut as required by b regs) the batteries are right there. Power/weight ratio is 2.4/28 kW/kg though some of that weight is the cage of the battery which is quite strong. Call it one tenth. Not the usual use of the measure - you would normally be talking about engine power not stored battery power.

I am wondering what the 36kW capacity of the eHonda batteries weigh. And the spec of the electric motor. Must do a delve.

'Range' to me on occasional trips would assume an overnight charge pulling the max of a 30amp ring main. @Nottm_S2 @Uncle Fester @Nick Graves n.b.

As an experienced motorhomer this idea of scrounging an overnight electric hookup is not new. Pulling 7.2kWh for half the night is

edit: Nick that Nio system takes allegedly 3 mins to swap the battery pack. About the same as filling up with a tank of diseasel.
Alongside the existing so called fast charge station taking at least half an hour for 80% charge could have a place.
Universal battery design though simply isn't going to happen. EV car manufacturers all agree?

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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 07:05 AM
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They used to manage DIN slots for car radio - no reason at all why they couldn't agree a universal tray / connection for battery by size.
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 08:24 AM
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Car radios are not the heart of a car - just read a few sigs for example.

Agreeing the power storage technology and/or sizing would be far closer to the competitive heart of the industry.

If we could transform it into a liquid that could be stored and transferred instantly instead of an electrical potential that cannot we would be getting better.
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Old Dec 27, 2019 | 10:02 AM
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interesting points there. Nick - i'd hope the range was honest but equally wonder whether it matters too much. as a dad i dont really stray far withour the brood or at least one of. i'll be keeping my range unlimited S2000..s. althought the boosted one needs vpower and probably lower range than the e on a tank.. the other does 220 miles on a tank but is rarely full when i set off..

will probably remain a 4 car household anyway, you havent seen how her indoors treats her cars (picture a skip, on a council estate, just after xmas)..

i've not ventured outside that circle this year driving and we tend to prefer flying from localish airports, east mids, brum, gatwick, heathrow, stanstead all doable IN THEORY ..

i think gatwick do charging now while you're away too so the others probably do too

still. the drive is the key



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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by unclefester
They used to manage DIN slots for car radio - no reason at all why they couldn't agree a universal tray / connection for battery by size.
Since the battery pack invariably conforms to the floorpan of the EV (there are often 'missing' batteries where the rear footwells go) it might be problematical. And the SW might need to recognise a 'different' make of battery.

But, say for VAG MEB-based cars of which there could be many, it could be more practicable.

Then again, Teslas have their own dedicated chargers and you need to buy another cable if you want to use a normal (CCS) one.

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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 01:34 AM
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Yes and as we know VAG are the masters of software aren't they just ...

Long term EVs with way fewer moving parts should be lots more reliable some early experiences in here.

For irregular users 'bricking' could be an issue though (that apparently is the term for a battery not taking charge. They are best used as often as possible I understand.) As with other battery driven technology it might be an idea to discharge fully once a week say? Any thoughts on that anyone?

I might could look at a way to transfer power to my PV-linked batteries and use it up round the house although discharging the e Honda battery at 36kW into my house battery at 9.6kW some might spill over the top. Or perhaps I could employ that 'solution' to my over-configured solar hot water system of driving a radiator in the wood shed (honestly!)

Hmmm ... 36kW is about a cold winter's washing day house consumption of electricity at Coleditz ... hmmm ...

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Old Dec 28, 2019 | 03:15 AM
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Rog,

Li-ions tend to prefer regular feeding; not too little, not too much.

They can be un-bricked by giving them a short burst of over-charge (expert territory!) if it does happen. I believe it's usually because they were excessively discharged.

This is a good site for separating fact/fiction:

https://batteryuniversity.com/




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Old Jan 2, 2020 | 01:54 PM
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dealer said they thought June/July they would have an e

meanwhile er indoors liked the HRV.. but not the turbo one. we tried the CVT, its not good.
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Old Jan 3, 2020 | 02:09 AM
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Horns dilemma ...

Would jacking in the Quashkai for an HRV be better than getting an eHonda?

Apart from being a Honda the reincarnated HRV is average. CVT is shit though as you say the turbo petrol engine is good. Be a first for you?
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