Given the choice of a Yaris GR or a Honda E .... i'd be Yaris every time. Hang the green crap.

Presuming that comes with Toyota 100k/5 year warranty i don't think you'll lose much.

 

That just depends on priorities. It (YGR) has a very harsh ride so that would rule it out for me due to her indoors bad back

and as a family daily you have a load of performance that you hardly ever use in my experience. And it's a lot more expensive that the little Honda was
I have a 380hp S2 for hooning and the e can sweep up all the fam miles in relative comfort and costing f all
Horses for courses but I don't think Gad has the need for e or is concerned about mpg, or has an 8yo and dog and bikes to lug about

100k at 35mpg costs £17k
At 110mpg it's about £4k

So Honda e over Golf R or GR for me

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+1 (obvs) it really is a case of horses for courses.

Bloke walking his greyhound ambled over for a chat in IKEA car park "thought it might be a Lambourgini". I can see his mistake ...

 

Every time i see the compromises i'm reminded why kids just aren't for me

 

They aren't comparable. If my needs and wants matched yours then I'm sure the E would be on my shortlist and probably vice versa. I will not travel any significant distances unless they are paid for by someone else (train or eventually plane) or it is for pure pleasure when ports etc reopen. So for me a car that does 15mpg is completely acceptable. The mileage I do and will do means almost any mpg would be irrelevant - as long as the car provided the right level of driving and ownership pleasure.

 

​​​​​​Yes, totally agree. You can run what you want on low miles but something new you can just get in an go and that is light and powerful so should be fun too.
we will do 10-12k I guess in this maybe a touch more, we are combining 2 cars, the Nissan and the BM into one really though the former is still here for now. The BM was probably on AVG 4k miles (but broke a fair bit), the Nissan 10k ish
don't do long distances in a car

 

That's an interesting analysis. It roughly works out as a £100 difference in EV vs non-EV.

For many, this matters on the monthly payments.

 

I bought a diesel Volvo estate for tip and building material runs during the various restrictions and in advance of some continental runs. It's an auto D5, comfy and safe and will do 40mpg on a run. I think the manuals do a lot better but auto is better for the type of car imo. There are some diesel bargains out there due to fear of cancer/Sadiq.

 

This could and should be a thread or threads on its own. While it is interesting as all car purchases are it is not on topic. Or am I missing a nuance or intended meaning?

 

I dunno, we were muttering about low running cost cars

imagine you take my fuel cost and halve it again, you (Rog) are paying relative peanuts with the smart octopus option and this has the ability to drop the £4k above to sub £2k.. or £200 a year or less. Barely noticeable

which is incredible efficiency without the particulates a diesel kicks out. Yes you can argue something else is created in the supply chain but Rog is using Octopus energy. Its a spurious debate but regardless no emissions next to school in my case.

It’ll all be proven in due course, lets revisit in 10 years

i’ve never owned a diesel, the dorris had several. I don't like the engines, narrow powerband, modern are all turbo no go and i only once did the miles to warrant it. They stink as a cyclist or ped and are filthy to work on (i had to fix the egr on a diesel vectra we had a decade or so ago)

So cheap to run then but electric is nicer to drive. Diesel is not for me.

i am averaging sub 5p a mile at the mo.. i think petrol is about 580p so c135mpge without making any effort at efficiency. And ultimately we all like the car which supplants the lot as its the only fam car i have ever had i liked

(all hers bar the BM)
Vec DTi - shit engine, unreliable, handled like a pig
Golf GTD x 2 - dull, nose heavy, understeer monster with a dire engine, 2nd one could stall in a breeze, first sounded like a skeleton knocking one out in a dustbin
Nissan Qashqai - worst driving thing on the planet with blatant emissions cheat map
BMW e92 M3 - just disappointing in every way bar the sound, i dont get why people rave about them