I have highlighted the key difference which I got by asking to speak to management. Help desk is very coy.

Go is fixed rate (low and normal) whereas Intelligent is variable i.e. they can vary rates based on the wholesale energy market.

The duration of the low rate on the fixed Go means I can fully charge my house batts capacity (currently) and usually the 'e' within the four hour period.

If I went for Intelligent at renewal (end July) I would be betting that wholesales rates stay as now or lower for the 12 month period of fixed Go. One interesting snippet in that regard is that two of the three coal fired power stations we had available last winter won't be available this winter see this report in the Guardian so we will depend more on renewables and/or the interconnects. OTOH at 9.5p versus 7.5p low rates you can see their betting and the fixed Go profit margin. The normal rates and standing charges for fixed Go and variable Intelligent are identical atm. One other imponderable is any Govt price cap. Last time round it was only available for variable tariffs.

I can foresee there will be a huge outcry if/when they vary the Intelligent rates upwards. But they will have said they can in the small print

Hmmmm

 

Didn't realise go was fixed even though you mentioned it

There is no contract with Intel

In winter surely IE will be better as is? Assuming it remains

As for drivers into winter... Who knows. We need to onboard the entire e2e to within our control. If you suffer on ie it will be minimal if you rely entirely on night rate (in winter when gas goes up a lot in price)
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Yes it is confusing that they sell fixed contract (12 months) 'Go' alongside the similarly named variable 'Intelligent Go' which they have confirmed is non contract and you can leave any time. I am a bit baffled by your 'IE' and 'ie' shorthands, what I am saying is they can vary 'Intelligent Go' rates and terms at any time they like. Whereas fixed contract 'Go' rates and the term are, well, fixed for 12 months.

That they will or can remedy the market 'e2e' and/or world gas price disparity I don't see happening even if well informed amateurs say it must be sorted. What is blindingly obvious to us may not be so on the inside.

 

My bad, IO

The low rate is all you use in winter once the Pool is covered and I think they have juice available

So basically IO is 2p a unit or over 20% cheaper than Go but I would guess (and it is that) that it's the high, day, rate which is most exposed - that daytime use drives the gas turbines

There must be a plan to move off fossil fuels, there ain't much left and what is left is largely controlled by hostile countries such as Saudis (who fix the price) and Russia (who are now on a pre war footing with the west)

I've managed to get my AVG unit cost down to 22p (14p pre war), with a battery install could go to even less.. diminishing returns though as I edge toward 7.5p

May pull the trigger

 

The dearer phoned today and told wife her car will be delivered to them on 11th , maybe it’s in the middle of the field ! And that Renault still have transport issues in UK , no drivers !

trying to work out what Octopussy tariff to try , bearing in mind we have PV and 7KW of house battery , Thinks maybe IO , Octopussy won’t advise they just email the options for you to decide !

getting a charger is a nightmare , but finally getting a Zappi , and at last got a sensible spark who will be fitting using ordinary T &E via loft down cavity to location , I am running cable and through flexible nylon conduit down cavity to Zappi , so no cables on show . Others wanted stand alone RCBOs in meter cupboard cutting into tails , ect ect , where as we have 100amp supply and spare bays in my CU for a 32mm MCB , but of course no grant any more or dealer help. Being fitted next week , Octopussy wanted 6 week lead time and thier price was an estimate , no way was I accepting that.

 

Think some see it as a licence to print £

And many aren't not very good at their job

I have an Ohme, thanks to Arse, it's a good unit but needs a PEN fault device separate, I believe some have that built in now?

It was an easy enough install at the current place but a pain at the old place as it was on a garage cable which was off a trip itself

I removed it myself when we moved but local fella put it back in and tested it. Breaker in existing consumer unit to pen fault device to charger iirc

The cable management pisses me off mind.. I need to make something for that

 

Back in the day when there were still grants my nearest Ohme dealer ran from a 32A MCB slot on my main consumer unit.
Located just inside door at rear of garage in the utility room. 5m run along top of side wall of garage.
@Nottm_S2 No talk of PEN units in my experience at the time (Oct 2020.)

@CHIPPO I would concur Intelligent Octopus is ideal for your set up. 7kWh of house battery will charge fully in a couple of hours mine (Pylon) charges at 3.2kWh/hour.
Great thing about that tariff is, no contract involved it is a variable rate tariff you can switch at any time.
Variable can be a bad thing as the basts can vary rates and terms at any time.
'Go' is if you want a fixed 12 month contract.

 

With Zappi no Pen device required or Earth rod.

i have a pylon Batteries that do charge on a good day in less than two hours

 

Did you have an earth rod?

 

Is it possible to use the BEV as a house battery? That is to say charge it up using cheap off peak leccy and solar panels. And send the leccy back to the house in day time, and not using the expensive national grid supply?