They are absolutely horrible.

IMO these days it should be case worthy of child abuse to send your kid to a public school.

 

most of you forgot your high school days.

some of the schools have the most rediculous rules for nothing.

like no wearing hats.
can you imagine what would happen on a rainy day.. and this happens alot in schools that are not in a single build where you have a roof everywhere you walk.

thens there the bullshit request permission for bathroom. that is one of the most digusted rule ever.. there is health issue regard that policy because forcing a child to hold their bladder when they really need to go is totally wrong.. i hope some kid breaks his bladder and sue the shit out of the school and the district and the board of education for that.


reason alot of teacher get disrespected from students is because they're in adequate for teaching. they don't have the proper knowledge or experience in dealing with minors.


anyways. i sent an email to the district superintendent and told him what a moron he is for letting the situation happen and getting publicized nationwide....

 

Fcuk school rules. Now I don't know the whole story, but if he did in fact initially tell the teacher that he is talking to his mom in Iraq in the proper way, and did not cause a scene, I completely side with the kid. If my mom was in Iraq and I got a call from her at lunch, in class, I dont care, id get up and kindly step outside. If the teacher proceeded to try to get the phone, I wouldnt even let the teacher touch the phone let alone hang it up. I can't possibly agree with some of you that agreed with the school's actions. This guy wasn't talking to his girlfriend about what they were going to do over the weekend, he was talking to his mom that is in one of the most dangerous places today, serving this country.

 

"Parham said the teen's suspension was based on his reaction to the teacher's request. He said the teen used profanity when taken to the office."
I believe that the issue was the kid's reaction. I agree with other posters - why should the school accept defiant and disrespectful behaviour simply because his mom's in Iraq? Who else should they make exceptions for?

 

Exceptions need to be made, under any circumstances that logic prevails. Emotions get the best of us when it comes to loved ones. How can you not relate to this kids situation.

As a manager of a cemetery, there are TONS of rules and regulations that we/I have written over the 90 years the company has been going. We/I make exceptions to rules (or god for bid, we change them) when we can and it makes sense to do so. I deal with emotionally charged people on a day to day basis.

I hate corporate caned BS answers. Which all of these 'He was doing his job', 'The rules state blah, blah', etc. Why can we not look at the situation and extract what should have happened vs. what did happen.

*edit* I wanted to mention exceptions in the school environment. If a close friend dies in a car crash, comits suicide, rough divorce with parents. If the child is abused mentally/physically. I'm sure there are more this was just off the top of my head and will earn you some special exceptions in school.

 

I'm not saying I don't feel for the kid - I'm the biggest bleeding "heart: around and I agree exceptions should be made. The exceptions you listed are valid. However, most of those situations are generally unpredicatable. I'm sure the kid knew his mom was going to call at some point. So if they had talked to the school beforehand, then perhaps the school could have put a plan in place and the whole thing never would have happened.

 

a few of you guys have brought up the whole bathroom permission issue. the way i look at it, kids in junior high and high school are growing to become adults, which means these kids need to develop the skills to manage their bladders and bowels. there are 10-15 minute breaks between classes, as well as recess and lunch period throughout each school day. there is no reason why kids of these ages cannot train themselves to use those times to use the bathroom. sure, there are times when a person is physically ill and cannot control his/her bowel/bladder, and if that is the case, make a trip to the nurse's office during the break periods or ask the teacher for a pass to the nurse. the reason why restroom permissions during class is usually denied, is because there is no way to determine whether the request is due to legitimate needs or the kid just wants to step out of the classroom for a few minutes, just because he/she feels like it. can you imagine if each and every single bathroom request was granted throughout class time?? there would be literally tens to hundreds of kids roaming around the hall throughout the school day.

 

i've read all the replies that you guys wrote, and the bottom line is that the reason the topic is controversial is because what the school did was right and wrong at the same time. yes, the school should had been more sympathetic and understanding and granted this kid a temporary exception to school rules, but at the same time a kid who reacts and/or behaves in a rebellious and disobedient manner needs to be reprimanded for his behavior. sure, it's understandable that a kid can be emotionally sensitive because his/her mom is serving in iraq, but at the same time, the kid needs to develop the skills to contain his emotions and deal with situations in a calm and respectful manner. instead of outright saying "NO", he could had pleaded and reasoned with the teacher in a mature manner. who knows, if the kid had conducted himself as a "mature adult", then maybe, just maybe, the teacher would had given in and granted him the exception. of course, i don't know exactly how the situation actually carried out, and that i am merely speculating just like everyone else. all i do know is that there is no justifiable excuse for any kid to act in a disrespectful and disobedient manner. heck, if you feel that it's okay for this kid to get all worked up because a teacher took away his phone preventing him from finishing his conversation with his mother who is serving in iraq, then would you feel it is okay if this kid's mom dies in iraq and he becomes furious and reacts by attempting to kill president bush for sending his mom to iraq?? i'm sure some of you guys would say, yes, bush deserves to die, but still. imo, the underlying, and most pertinent, issue concerning this whole situation is the kids behaviour and self control. a kid who does not develop self control while growing up will grow up to be an adult who does not possess self control, which, to put it mildly, is not a good thing for himself or for society. imo, the suspension is not so much a punishment as it is an emphasis to the kid that his action and behaviour were not acceptable.

 

This is hardly worth a response...It's a cell phone, not a death inducing fall. Can't seemed to recall a single school policy reguiring kids to leap from 90 story buildings.
Apparently you don't have children, many have to be forced to go to school.
The last part of this sentence doesn't make sense, "forced to obtain to their policies so again--" I am guessing, that you mean that, kids are forced to submit to school policies. Uh, yeah, hence the reason for the policy.
Yes, I agree with you that there are exceptions. Just don't expect cursing a teacher to be one of them.

 

So what if it is a cell phone --- what matters is who was on the other side of the line. It could be life or death, what happens if the mom died the next day and that quick conversation (guessing) was his last one?

Why mention "Apparently you don't have children, many have to be forced to go to school." I already said that. They are normally forced to go and forced to listen to stupid policies that don't do much good except treat the kids like 2 year olds when they are 14-18. I just got lost with that comment unless there is something I missed.

And to the bladder issue. Most high schools around here have a 5min passing time. Recess? What recess? Recess was back in 1st grade --- no recess in high school. But I do agree there are lots of people who abuse them and that is probably why the rules are there. I just can't get over the fact when I was sweating and looked green the stupid teacher tried to tell me no.


Jonathan