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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Thats a puck clutch for you. Go with a disc next time if you want some longevity.
A puck vs. full face disc has nothing to do with longevity. If anything, the full face likely wouldn't have even lasted as long as it'd started slipping faster. As the OP said he's likely just making more power than it can hold. At some point making big numbers you gotta start thinking about a twin disc, or turning the power down..
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 05:53 AM
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I've had the Megan Racing engine/trans mounts in the past and ditched them because I didn't like the amount of vibration they translated into the cabin. I'm trying to keep my car very comfortable on the street, but I'm nervous about hurting the diff when I use the car for autox (which is 1-2 times per month). I've read that diff mounts don't translate as much vibration into the cabin as the engine/trans mounts (or any at all from some reviews). What kind do you guys have, what durometer hardness did you choose, and how are they as far as reducing wheel hop issues and cabin noise/vibration?
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by CoolGuy094
Diff mounts: Innovative, Hasport, Avid.

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I've had the Megan Racing engine/trans mounts in the past and ditched them because I didn't like the amount of vibration they translated into the cabin. I'm trying to keep my car very comfortable on the street, but I'm nervous about hurting the diff when I use the car for autox (which is 1-2 times per month). I've read that diff mounts don't translate as much vibration into the cabin as the engine/trans mounts (or any at all from some reviews). What kind do you guys have, what durometer hardness did you choose, and how are they as far as reducing wheel hop issues and cabin noise/vibration?
I have hasport 94a diff mounts..i havent felt any vibration from the mounts however when i had the stock diff in withthe 94a i was able to hear the diff when i was driving wasnt loud and annoying or anything
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowTeg
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Thats a puck clutch for you. Go with a disc next time if you want some longevity.
A puck vs. full face disc has nothing to do with longevity. If anything, the full face likely wouldn't have even lasted as long as it'd started slipping faster. As the OP said he's likely just making more power than it can hold. At some point making big numbers you gotta start thinking about a twin disc, or turning the power down..
Sure it does, a puck style clutch in my opinion is purchased because you cant afford what you should be running which is a twin disc so you are correct there.

A puck is an affordable way to hold more power, the drawback is they don’t last, fall apart, or give little to be desired in modulation. If you are exceeding the Pressure plates ability to hold a normal disc, then running a puck with it isnt going to last you long term as a reliable solution. Im not surprised at all by this thread. If you had better experiences with a puck, chances are good you could have gotten away with a disc on the same pressure plate and had a better modulating clutch overall which also lasted longer. The point of a puck is to bite in rather then slip, to take an abrasive approach to assisting in the pressure plates shortcoming, the problem with that is, the pressure plate is what provides all the holding capacity, so if its not up to snuff, an abrasive assistance isnt but a temporary solution. This is why you don’t street puck style clutches, they are for drag racing only. 7000 miles is a lot of 1/4 mile runs.
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by s2000Junky
Sure it does, a puck style clutch in my opinion is purchased because you cant afford what you should be running which is a twin disc so you are correct there.

A puck is an affordable way to hold more power, the drawback is they don’t last, fall apart, or give little to be desired in modulation. If you are exceeding the Pressure plates ability to hold a normal disc, then running a puck with it isnt going to last you long term as a reliable solution. Im not surprised at all by this thread. If you had better experiences with a puck, chances are good you could have gotten away with a disc on the same pressure plate and had a better modulating clutch overall which also lasted longer. The point of a puck is to bite in rather then slip, to take an abrasive approach to assisting in the pressure plates shortcoming, the problem with that is, the pressure plate is what provides all the holding capacity, so if its not up to snuff, an abrasive assistance isnt but a temporary solution. This is why you don’t street puck style clutches, they are for drag racing only. 7000 miles is a lot of 1/4 mile runs.
A puck clutch can last a long time was my only point. Is it going to last you 150k miles like an OEM disc, probably not, but then again I don't think people that run them care if it lasts that long. Regarding a stiffer PP vs. a more abrasive material/etc. Different clutch mfrs and people handle this differently. Some prefer a lighter PP with the disc doing a little more work and vice versa. I'm not a big fan of puck clutches, but I think they have their place. This puck clutch is sprung which should help w/ the engagement slightly. It sure beats an unsprung 4 puck. Twin discs are pricey and have longevity and other issues as well. When you start making big power it's more a choice of "pick your poison" imo.
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 04:08 AM
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In for more info on the mounts as well. I want new mounts but dont want the vibration, or atleast want to minimize it.
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 11:26 AM
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Is it worth upgrading my hallman es mbc to an aem tru boost ebc? I am using haltech ems if that matters.
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 11:31 AM
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Has anyone considered an ETD (engine torque damper)??? All the ones I see attached to the passenger side strut tower and to the motor just behind the vtec oil pressure sensor. I realize that just about every turbo manifold is in the way of that. Even with my top mount, the damper would just barely hit my compressor housing on the turbo. I have a friend who has one N/A and he said the difference it made was unbelievable.

Are there any other options out there?
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by baZurk
Has anyone considered an ETD (engine torque damper)??? All the ones I see attached to the passenger side strut tower and to the motor just behind the vtec oil pressure sensor. I realize that just about every turbo manifold is in the way of that. Even with my top mount, the damper would just barely hit my compressor housing on the turbo. I have a friend who has one N/A and he said the difference it made was unbelievable.

Are there any other options out there?
I added one when I had my Megan engine/trans mounts. It made zero difference in handling/feel/response, but I believe that was because the Megan engine/trans mounts had already made the difference. I never ran my ETD on the stock engine/trans mounts, but I believe it would have helped and would have provided some of the benefits that stiffer engine/trans mounts do.

If you have aftermarket engine/trans mounts already, I would say skip it. If you're running stock engine/trans mounts, then it may be worth a try. I will say that I think my ETD added a bit more cabin vibration/noise when it was installed. So watch out for that. I can't help on the issue of the manifold being in the way of most ETD's... You could try to make a little custom mount for it using the mount it comes with though. I had to modify the mount that came with mine slightly to work with my supercharger cause the SC mounts to the VTEC solenoid location too.
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Old Mar 17, 2014 | 11:54 AM
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Well the ETD didn't change response or handling for him, it made shifting a lot smoother for him. Now that I have a dump tube coming out of my hood I can visibly see how much my engine moves and shakes while coming off the throttle while in boost. I just thought that it would help me out a bit with engine movement rather than vibration, etc.
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