anyone have thoughts about not running the windage tray when install the canton pan?

 

i didnt go off track once this season. imo the weld failed. it broke in the middle of the weld there is still some metal on the pan and on the mounting tab as well. also i took out the stock windage tray completely so the doesn't interfere with the plate at all either.
i wish i would have taken some better pics, but all i have is a low quality phone video that im not sure how to get on to this forum at the moment.

 

Lot's of us did that. Doesn't seem to be an issue because the anti slosh plate essentially accomplishes the same thing. The distance between the ant slosh plate and the OEM windage tray is very small, so the both keep oil from splashing up. The clearances between the windage tray, pickup head, and anti slosh plate are apparently very, very small. My guess is on the order of a couple of millimeters at some points, so, sometimes it was just easier to remove it than to try to trim it to clear completely. I suppose if a machine was making the parts, and we had a few engines to measure the variances with, everything would clear perfect. But, unfortunately that's not the case.

(people....not making excuses for anything...please don't jump on that last couple of sentences...ok?)

 

You didn't physically type that, but if it wasn't what was meant, there was zero point in even pointing it out.

 

i was mostly concerned when heavy braking and the oil pooling in the front of the pan

 

I don't think there is really an issue here. The OEM windage tray (which Honda calls a baffle) is only to prevent oil from splashing up to the crank. It doesn't really have anything to do with oil starvation under braking or anything else.

The stock pan, and the Canton pan both have a small plate forward of the pickup head to help keep oil around the pickup head during braking. I'm not an engineer, but I do believe there is enough volume of oil in the pan, and a small enough area in front of the pickup head towards the forward wall of the pan to keep enough oil pooled around the pickup head for any amount of heavy braking that you may do.

 

You didn't physically type that, but if it wasn't what was meant, there was zero point in even pointing it out.
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Ahh...man. I thought we were pressing on? Ok..well, my only point of this post was to have the last word. Good day.
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I did already state that you were annoying...

 

my concerns were more about without the stock windage tray would there be a possibility of oil splashing the crank under heavy braking since the stock windage tray basically wraps the oil pickup but the canton pan does not have anything above the pick up

 

Who gives a f*ck what it's called?

Back on topic.. yamahasho clearly has a valid concern and I'd be pissed if my welds crapped out on me and it caused problems.. It seems canton has some QC issues. I'm not sure why you need constantly run to their defense dave just because you lobbied to have the product created..

 

I discovered a pinhole leak on my pan as well right on the bead. It took me a while to find the source during the race season but since my car is stored on a lift during the winter I was able to narrow it down pretty easily. It wasnt worth me dropping the pan and rewelding it since I had issues getting it to seal correctly so I ended up slapping some JBweld on it. I can snag some pictures at some point if anybody is interested.