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alright my handy crack pot of role scientists....
"if" i wanted to put a GCR legal fuel cell in The s2000, I would have to cut out a small portion of the oem paneling above the current fuel cell in order to mount the aftermarket one in its place.
Is the removal of this material to install the fuel cell legal?
Half of me says yes, other half no
"if" i wanted to put a GCR legal fuel cell in The s2000, I would have to cut out a small portion of the oem paneling above the current fuel cell in order to mount the aftermarket one in its place.
Is the removal of this material to install the fuel cell legal?
Half of me says yes, other half no
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From: weston
Remember that per current rules in order to install the fuel cell you must have a roll bar. Jason and i talked about writing letters to either remove the rollbar requirement or allow for surge tank to be used so that we can run less fuel. If writing a letter we talked about using it to push reliability and safety due top the potential lean condition from fuel starve
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Remember that per current rules in order to install the fuel cell you must have a roll bar. Jason and i talked about writing letters to either remove the rollbar requirement or allow for surge tank to be used so that we can run less fuel. If writing a letter we talked about using it to push reliability and safety due top the potential lean condition from fuel starve
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from Dave Deborde, who's on the SCCA Time Trials Advisory Council:
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The factory rollover protection provided by the existing hoops on a Honda S2000 is deemed acceptable for participation in SCCA sanctioned Level 1 PDX or Level 2 Club Trials.
From what Dave says, we should be able to run full harness and fuel cell in a theoretical preparation for club trials...
Does anyone have anything against this? Any word on the removal of material to make the round hole square for fuelcell install?
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I really think you should get in contact with some members of the SPAC and or seek clarification via a letter. I can't comment on what that person told you about SCCA TT, but I know S2000's are not allowed to compete in SCCA PDX/TT's with DC Region unless they have additional roll over protection.
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i guess it depends on what level of time trials rules the solo book is referring too.... If it is level 1, then the s2000 should pass no problem. however if it is level 3, no car can have a fuelcell without rollbar, convertible or not... im confused, i sent in a letter, just talking out loud
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11.2. CLUB TRIALS (LEVEL 2)
Roll bars or cages will NOT be required in those cars prepared to Stock, Street Prepared, Street Touring or Street Mod
specifications as found in the Solo rules, except for Convertibles and Targa* top automobiles. These cars must have either a
roll bar meeting Section 11 of the TTR, a non-mechanical factory roll bar/roll over protection (i.e. no pop-ups), or a factory hard
top using the factory mounting hardware and mounting points. Owners of cars equipped with factory roll bar/roll over protection
must present documentation stating that the device is a roll bar or roll over protection at the time of vehicle inspection (a
factory issued Owner’s or Shop Manual will fulfill this requirement) Targa* top (and T-top) automobiles may forgo the roll bar
requirement under the condition that the Targa bar meets the height requirement set forth in 11.2.1.B. Any convertible that
runs with a TTR legal roll bar must do so with convertible top down and in the latched position.Any car modified beyond any
part of those rules must be equipped with a roll bar minimum. Any car modified beyond any part of those rules must be
equipped with a roll bar minimum. This includes cars prepared to the Solo classes of Prepared or Modified. Any car built to a
GCR class MAY NOT interchange preparation rules to circumvent the roll bar requirement (for example, even though an IT car
may run in the Street Prepared Classes at a Solo event, it does not qualify for the roll bar exception in this case, and must
have a roll bar to run any Time Trials event.
Roll bars or cages will NOT be required in those cars prepared to Stock, Street Prepared, Street Touring or Street Mod
specifications as found in the Solo rules, except for Convertibles and Targa* top automobiles. These cars must have either a
roll bar meeting Section 11 of the TTR, a non-mechanical factory roll bar/roll over protection (i.e. no pop-ups), or a factory hard
top using the factory mounting hardware and mounting points. Owners of cars equipped with factory roll bar/roll over protection
must present documentation stating that the device is a roll bar or roll over protection at the time of vehicle inspection (a
factory issued Owner’s or Shop Manual will fulfill this requirement) Targa* top (and T-top) automobiles may forgo the roll bar
requirement under the condition that the Targa bar meets the height requirement set forth in 11.2.1.B. Any convertible that
runs with a TTR legal roll bar must do so with convertible top down and in the latched position.Any car modified beyond any
part of those rules must be equipped with a roll bar minimum. Any car modified beyond any part of those rules must be
equipped with a roll bar minimum. This includes cars prepared to the Solo classes of Prepared or Modified. Any car built to a
GCR class MAY NOT interchange preparation rules to circumvent the roll bar requirement (for example, even though an IT car
may run in the Street Prepared Classes at a Solo event, it does not qualify for the roll bar exception in this case, and must
have a roll bar to run any Time Trials event.
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From: Bellingham
To address fuel starvation issues, I've been testing a prototype high capacity fuel damper for several years and it has eliminated fuel starve. With sticky tires, I used to starve with anything less than 3/4 tank. With the prototype, I typically race with about 3 gallons and won't starve until the tank is empty. This device replaces the factory damper on the fuel rail with a remote mounted larger capacity "damper" which eliminates fuel pressure spikes. Not sure if this is legal under BSP rules. Looks like 15.10 C allows unrestricted carburetors, fuel injection, and intake manifolds. Would the oem fuel damper fall under the "unrestricted fuel injection" rule?
