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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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Btw, my SS's never got above 120 degrees (pit temps) no matter what, co-driver ambient temps, ect.
Old Sep 25, 2010 | 09:34 PM
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are you guys running camber joints to get that kinda camber?
Old Sep 26, 2010 | 12:03 AM
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Yea, most run the J's lower ball joint... I went with the SPC upper one,predominately because my upper ball joint on the right failed so I needed to replace it anyway
Old Sep 26, 2010 | 05:47 AM
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My experience with the Hankooks is a little different than most. Mine saw a lot of street time though - 2500+ miles and over 150 runs on course. Never flipped them.

We ran 2.8deg of front camber and absolutely demolished the outside edge of the tires. Temps were even across the tire but we got the cords at Nationals on the outside edge. We would typically run 38F/35R on pressures but there is a distinct wear pattern on the tires that shows an extreme lack of pressure. The middle of the tire is probably 1-2/32nds taller than the inside or outside edges.

They also seemed to fall off for us when they got over 140deg. No change in feel or apparent grip, they just got slower. So we sprayed anytime the tires were over 140 and the times would instantly drop.


Yes this is the exact opposite than most, and no I have no reasonable explanation.


The plan is more camber all the way around and mid 40's for pressure.
Old Sep 26, 2010 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TheNick,Sep 26 2010, 09:47 AM
They also seemed to fall off for us when they got over 140deg. No change in feel or apparent grip, they just got slower. So we sprayed anytime the tires were over 140 and the times would instantly drop.
If my kooks got to or near 150, I needed to water as it would seem like the grip disappears in the middle of run. However, this happened very rarely... Like a local event that was almost hot lapping on a hot day.

Loooove my kooks!!!

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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 07:26 AM
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Nick, have you checked your pressure gauge against other gauges to see if it's reading high?
Old Sep 26, 2010 | 09:51 AM
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I checked my gauge against Jay Balducci's (MX-5 #197) and was 3-4 psi different. When mine said 34 his was 38 psi.

Same goes for temperature gauges. I use a cheap Harbor Freight IR pyrometer.
Old Sep 26, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TheNick,Sep 26 2010, 05:47 AM
My experience with the Hankooks is a little different than most. Mine saw a lot of street time though - 2500+ miles and over 150 runs on course. Never flipped them.

We ran 2.8deg of front camber and absolutely demolished the outside edge of the tires. Temps were even across the tire but we got the cords at Nationals on the outside edge. We would typically run 38F/35R on pressures but there is a distinct wear pattern on the tires that shows an extreme lack of pressure. The middle of the tire is probably 1-2/32nds taller than the inside or outside edges.

They also seemed to fall off for us when they got over 140deg. No change in feel or apparent grip, they just got slower. So we sprayed anytime the tires were over 140 and the times would instantly drop.


Yes this is the exact opposite than most, and no I have no reasonable explanation.


The plan is more camber all the way around and mid 40's for pressure.
It's funny you say that... Those are almost Guy Ankeny's thoughts word for word.

He originally had his offset bushings in his control arms with 3.5 -camber, went to J's racing lower ball joints, got -3.6 bought their other ball joints to go to even more -camber. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with his spring rates and how much it allows the car to roll compared to higher spring rates.
Old Sep 26, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNick,Sep 26 2010, 06:47 AM
My experience with the Hankooks is a little different than most. Mine saw a lot of street time though - 2500+ miles and over 150 runs on course. Never flipped them.

We ran 2.8deg of front camber and absolutely demolished the outside edge of the tires. Temps were even across the tire but we got the cords at Nationals on the outside edge. We would typically run 38F/35R on pressures but there is a distinct wear pattern on the tires that shows an extreme lack of pressure. The middle of the tire is probably 1-2/32nds taller than the inside or outside edges.

They also seemed to fall off for us when they got over 140deg. No change in feel or apparent grip, they just got slower. So we sprayed anytime the tires were over 140 and the times would instantly drop.


Yes this is the exact opposite than most, and no I have no reasonable explanation.


The plan is more camber all the way around and mid 40's for pressure.
When I saw your tires in grid off the car they certainly had the appearance of low air pressure. I did not know your had chorded them. That also sounds like too low air pressure. Obviously no amount of camber will make up for that.
Old Sep 27, 2010 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by chetly,Sep 26 2010, 02:19 PM
It's funny you say that... Those are almost Guy Ankeny's thoughts word for word.

He originally had his offset bushings in his control arms with 3.5 -camber, went to J's racing lower ball joints, got -3.6 bought their other ball joints to go to even more -camber. I'm wondering if it has anything to do with his spring rates and how much it allows the car to roll compared to higher spring rates.
Yeah we talked about it at Nats. Its weird.

I've checked my gauge against others - they are all within 1-2psi.



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