I agree, my bias is around a 69% front and I like it a lot. I was actually just in the other thread and people were telling me I needed a lot more front stiffness. Maybe there's a calculation difference here?

 

That's kinda what I'm thinking, too...

 

Math is hard

 

Theoretical performance aside, that sounds like you just need to learn to adapt faster.


While I agree you should continue testing, your reason is a little weird. You take all those calculations to get you a starting point then you go out and test- let the clock tell you what is better, not a book or a spreadsheet. Comparing numbers is wonderful, but he might be smoother or more abrupt, is lower or higher, has more compression or less, more rebound or less, different alignment, tests on a different surface or course style, et al. All the pieces work into a system that can balance itself out through the sum of its parts (then the driver can throw all the theory out the window).

There are more components to a course than just transitions, just like there are more suspension parts than the front bar. For argument's sake, you might find a super stiff front bar feels good but may not be faster than a softer bar that requires you to lead the inputs. The stiffer bar felt worse to me but was verified to be faster for both drivers. It wasn't in the slalom, either, it was the higher average speed through the sweeper.

You mean the springs I have on the front of my car? You can always try a different diameter or length. I made sure to run the same lengths, front and rear, so I could swap springs freely. I'm pretty sure I'm running 7B0850.

 

I'm at 62.7% roll rate bias with an assumed 50/50 weight distribution. All the ST* cars I've built shift weight bias forward by 2-3% and the roll rate bias doesn't account for differences in weight distribution nor dynamic weight transfer.

 

Very well stated! Get a decent starting point and start tweaking until you are the fastest.... or whatever is more fun... just depends on what you are wanting from the sport.

Of course, I am saying this as a mid-packer, so what do I know?

-Dave

 

I agree with you, and I'm a backmarker using stock suspension
Biggest improvement that can be made to the car is the driver. Focus on driver as your #1 goal. Leave the maths at home.

 

I left math at school about a billion years ago. Okay, over 20 years ago. Maybe that's the reason I have my attitude. 2+2=? Where's my calculator?

 

I'm an accountant with an MBA (well 6 months out on that, but close enough). I can make 2+2 equal whatever you and your business associates would like it to.

And I would die without a calculator...

 

imstimpy- your right you can't compare set up over the internet. I drove matts car and matt drove my car, we bothe agreed our cars felt simular in balance regardless of the rest of the set up. Therefore I did the math and sure enough our cars are within 1%age on front roll bias. thats all.

spread sheets are nice to get a base line and then tune to your driving style. Thats all. I tried what it said was ideal and it didn't work as well as my previous set-up. Which means one more click of bar is prolly going to happen soon.