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View Poll Results: What front sway bar do you use?
Gendron 1.25" hollow
16.57%
Gendron 1.375" hollow
8.84%
Ankeny single blade
0.55%
Ankeny dual blade
7.73%
Comptech Adjustable V2
7.18%
Saner
19.34%
Other
13.26%
Eibach
20.44%
Standard Gendron
6.08%
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STR Prep - Sway Bars

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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PedalFaster
I do recall Marc posting saying that he didn't like the Ankeny's feel, but I'm hard-headed and like to try things myself.
That's correct, my personal opinion (same as Jadrice) is that the Ankeny bar gives a "different" feel and/or feedback in the steering wheel. I like the feel the Gendron gives, especially when matched with the ball bearing mounts. Others may like this bar and the feel, I simply did not. I progressed as a driver with the Gendron bar as part of my setup, so I'm sure there is some bias towards this bar. If you have the ability like Stephen, try it for yourself.

For reference, I have only tried the Gendron bar on the 3rd and 4th settings on both the original bushing mounts and the ball bearing mounts. The Ankeny bar is quality, and the optional (at least at the time) mounts were impressive. A few years back, Ankeny offered some of his own custom mounts for the Gendron bar.

-Marc
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sirbunz
Originally Posted by PedalFaster' timestamp='1328029438' post='21369591
I do recall Marc posting saying that he didn't like the Ankeny's feel, but I'm hard-headed and like to try things myself.
That's correct, my personal opinion (same as Jadrice) is that the Ankeny bar gives a "different" feel and/or feedback in the steering wheel. I like the feel the Gendron gives, especially when matched with the ball bearing mounts. Others may like this bar and the feel, I simply did not. I progressed as a driver with the Gendron bar as part of my setup, so I'm sure there is some bias towards this bar. If you have the ability like Stephen, try it for yourself.

For reference, I have only tried the Gendron bar on the 3rd and 4th settings on both the original bushing mounts and the ball bearing mounts. The Ankeny bar is quality, and the optional (at least at the time) mounts were impressive. A few years back, Ankeny offered some of his own custom mounts for the Gendron bar.

-Marc
Obviously subjective, but could you describe the feel of each one and the difference between them, from your experience?
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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problems with rubbing.
gendron bar with oem mount. arms rub steering boot and i am now replacing steering boots on both sides.
Was looking to order new bearing mounts from Bill, but now i am hearing the mounts rub too?
any solutions, anyone running bar and not having any problems?
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rrthorne8
problems with rubbing.
gendron bar with oem mount. arms rub steering boot and i am now replacing steering boots on both sides.
Was looking to order new bearing mounts from Bill, but now i am hearing the mounts rub too?
any solutions, anyone running bar and not having any problems?
Bill said just that bearing mount was rubbing. Mine doesn't rub at all. My first Gendron bar without the bearing mounts on my old BS car rubbed through the boots in a weekend. Buy the bearing mounts, they're nice!
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 07:35 PM
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I have had no issues with my bearing mounts as well.
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Old Feb 5, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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I love my bearing mounts.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Random1
I don't have experience with blade type sway bars, only have driven on one car. My guess is that there may be a blade design/selection (sizing) criteria for angle range that is optimum (not all blades are equal for all applications?). I have seen various sizes of blades available specified in size (dimensional) and force rating.

I searched for a blade angle vs force curve but could not find any. Know where to find one?

This Swedish web page shows a few selections for blades. http://sellholm.se/article_group.asp?id=29&g=6

Found these FEA images of a blade in two positions which helps get the concept across.

Flat (soft)


Vertical (stiff)
I'm pretty sure the issue is not when the blades are full stiff as they will move vertically as depicted.

When the blade is full soft, will still move vertically, but, you may have a two stage effect as the blade has to deflect a certain amount before the bar will start to twist.

The biggest issue is anytime you are at a partial setting the blade will deflect at an angle both laterally and vertically which probably explains the complaints about the feel.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 04:49 AM
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I would imagine that the endlinks are not able to be positioned vertically, thus the stiffest position is when the arms are oriented in plane with the force from the endlink.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rrthorne8
problems with rubbing.
gendron bar with oem mount. arms rub steering boot and i am now replacing steering boots on both sides.
Was looking to order new bearing mounts from Bill, but now i am hearing the mounts rub too?
any solutions, anyone running bar and not having any problems?
I made 1/2" aluminum spacers to drop my OEM mounts down (they sit between the frame rails and T-brackets). Just pick up some 1/2" x 2" aluminum bar stock from a local metal shop, drill some holes, buy longer bolts, and for about $10 your boots will be safe. Someone is selling them on here now, but they're easy enough to make for a lot cheaper.

BB mounts are nice, but they add almost 5lbs. to the nose (just a guess - has anyone weighed them?). I probably wouldn't do it unless I needed the extra stiffness, but I guess it could be worthwhile if you want to eliminate bushing compliance from your roll stiffness equation.
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Old Feb 6, 2012 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sirbunz
Originally Posted by pgss2k' timestamp='1327964817' post='21367164
Thanks Bill!
For anyone else considering Bill has been available and helpful to me over the phone and e-mail. Don't hesitate to order if you're thinking of it.
Highly recommend both Bill and Guy. Both are very helpful and we are fortunate to have such knowledgeable builders supporting our hobby.

-Marc
+1.

Bill is local to my region and we are good friends. He's a stand up guy.
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