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Old May 11, 2007 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Think,May 11 2007, 10:54 AM
I can chirp on the 1-2 shift without being over 8k on tires with good tread - maybe it's an AP1 thing.
It is... Both the CDV and the DBW/VSA will stop you from chirping second. Mostly the CDV though. As too the original question. You didn't mention Synthetic Oil. That will help with longivity if used at every oil change. Also, if longivity was my only concern, I'd probably stay away from downshifting without rev-matching.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by iKMTi,May 11 2007, 01:35 PM
my 07 does not chirp from 1-2shift. those with 07, does your chirp shift from 1 to 2?
I shift exactly at 8rpm. Should I shift a little higher than that? what the highest to shift?
There are more variables than just where in the RPM range the shift is initiated...

In no particular order, a few variables would be...
- How quickly the shift is completed.
- How quickly the clutch is released.
- Surface type and condition
- Tire type and condition.
- Clutch type and condition.
- Clutch delay valve operations (if there is one).
- Flywheel weight.
- etc.

I'm not really even sure how traction/stability control may impact such an occurrence.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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What exactly do you guys mean by "Chirping"?


Are you talking about losing traction while shifting?
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Old May 11, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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The car is designed more or less to be driven like you stole it. Just make sure you change the oil before you steal it.

In all seriousness though, the car will last just as long if you hammer on it day in and day out (Save things like clutch dumps and being stupid) if you maintain it properly. If you baby it but dont take care of it, it will probably have the same effective lifespan to taking care of it but beating on it.

What do they say? an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Same goes with cars in my opinion.

Top shelf oils, filters, fuel have fun without abusing and it will give you years of enjoyment and reliability.

I for one Vtec through third gear while merging onto highways, bounce it off the fuel cut(which could be argued can cause a lean burn) and just generally have fun with it. Have only once done a serious clutch dump which is kinda pointless anyway. It has not once let me down. People auto-x on the weekends and track the car on a regular basis and they still get them to work on monday.

Its not so much how you drive it. Its how you care for it.

Its like a relationship, the more you put in the more you get out
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Old May 11, 2007 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by __redruM,May 11 2007, 03:04 PM
It is... Both the CDV and the DBW/VSA will stop you from chirping second. Mostly the CDV though. As too the original question. You didn't mention Synthetic Oil. That will help with longivity if used at every oil change. Also, if longivity was my only concern, I'd probably stay away from downshifting without rev-matching.
I've chirped in my AP2, so its possible, but imo, if you're chirping your tires you're not shifting smoothly.
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Old May 11, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JPH3,May 11 2007, 04:20 PM
What exactly do you guys mean by "Chirping"?


Are you talking about losing traction while shifting?
Yes, basically shifting gears fast enough while on the throttle that you dump enough power to the wheels to break traction momentarily.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 02:36 AM
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i've actually only chirped once or twice from 1-2 ... most of the time i just felt the rear tires were breaking a little loose ... i guess the tires are cold or something
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Old May 12, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Saki GT,May 11 2007, 08:24 PM
if you're chirping your tires you're not shifting smoothly.
Exactly. I have owned the car for a couple of years now and have never chirpped going from 1-2. Its all about technique.
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Old May 12, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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if ya got decent tires you won't break lose on the 1-2 unless your'e really trying. fwiw i drive my car like honda designed it to be driven.
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