Just looked. Cheapest used on Autotrader is £16,500. New, cheapest is £32,000.

The only private sales are not much above cheapest and all for pensioner blue Could be a premium?

In both case less a few quid to look cheaper. (Beats me why people play this silly retail pricing appearance game at this level!)

 

At 16 bag it's a buy in the current market. HRV sport which was considered here starts at 18k and is a lot more expensive to run

I did you search, made me laugh



From aug to Nov i have to service 3 cars and 1 (currently) bike.. the e is one of the 3 and is a joy because nothing needs done.. (and it's free currently)

Brake fluid next year.. even the bike is more work, oil, filter, plugs (X2 bastard to get to), chain lube, some cleaning...

That second one is lower miles than mine. I think they will become a curio when ceased. Whether that does anything for value I doubt, people don't get it

 

We just picked up (or will in January) a Jazz Sport in platinum white pearl - they tried to flog us an HR-V ( at 3 different garages) .... it seems Honda have them coming out of their ears, it's too big, too ugly and it looks like half a bad circumcision job from the top of the doors up to the roof. The only car that looks equally bad in that respect is that weird Mini Coupe thing. Could have had a Crosstar/regular Jazz but not in the colour she wanted - the Sport had better seats (thicker and nicer material), slightly nicer looking interior, upgraded handling package (retuned dampers and spring rates plus some gearbox fiddles) and allegedly a slight poke in power .... it should be a nice thing to knock around in. Nicer wheels, gloss black front and rear valance and skirts as well too.

Now IF this works then I could be tempted by something like an E as we'll have practical covered and then it's just about me buying something to go to work and back in and a 20 mile each way commute would be ideal range for that.

 

There's nowt to dislike about the e

85p to fuel that commute on octo lol (skewed but you get the idea)

Pre heating, android auto, virtually maint free, comfortable, nippy, easy to park.. perfect daily really

 

On the face of it, DIY maintenance should be simple. Cabin filter, brakes/fluid, transmission fluid.

Other stuff don't-fix-til-it-breaks includes tie rod ends (purely because I see on Cox's as available spares) and the 12v battery.

As I approach year 3 of my 5 year annual service package at Honda I am seeking a grown up conversation with Holden Honda's service manager just to explore going indy after the 5 years are up. I read some rumours about needing special lifts due to the main battery being underneath the car. My other issue is the dash error I got, requiring a Honda Assist call out 'charger failure you can only charge at normal rate'. This was after trying an Instavolt charger (or two) which triggered the car refusing to accept any rapid/fast chargers. In the end it might be wise to invest in an OBD device to be able to reset any 'spurious' or over-the-top errors like this, which I think is what did the trick. Since Honda are not making any more 'e' vehicles they need to be civilised about what happens in future. My assumption is that with normal care the lifetime of the vehicle should stretch to 2040 or so i.e. twenty years from new. Certainly Honda's conservative approach to main battery management suggest that is their thinking too.

I am probably wasting my breathe trying to get any sense out of the local dealer though.

 

There is no way honda garages have installed special lifts

You can see mine lifted here here https://video.citnow.com/vt_1fZyXnSC

The dealers know very little having seen a handful. Drop links are easy enough for your indy to do and require no lift

The car has a coolant system for the battery, this extends battery life alongside Honda's charging throttling, I expect it to be ok for a while, I budgeted 10 years

Over 10 years I would expect new 12v for sure
droplinks likely because Honda lol
Coolant
Trans fluid
Brake fluid

Maybe pads, discs, flux capacitor?
no clutch, plugs, leads etc

All very standard imo and very light, in the last 3 years on my stock s2000 I have done

3 x oil and filter (£60 a pop?)
2 x brake fluid (£10 ea)
Valve clearances (new gasket - c£30)
Air filter replaced (£30)
trans fluid (£40 - 2 bottles)
Diff fluid (£20)

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£310?
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in that time my e has had a pollen filter and trans fluid - £30 parts

I expect that disparity to continue. So long as electricity is affordable I will stick with a BEV for daily shit

 

So really the only area of uncertain science is around the cooling system for the battery. Which we suspect has a finite lifetime because all things do. Factoring in an every 5 years trip to Honda specifically to verify the main battery coolant system is functioning to spec does not seem onerous. One more thing to speak to my dealer service manager about now at the year 3 point.

It seems to make sense that 'normal' auto maintenance areas can be treated to normal maint whereas owt to do with the battery go to Honda.

Any intel on the design and lifetime strategy for the battery is going to be useful.

 

8yr/100k warranty at 80% isn't it? They are cheap from breakers currently, advantage being they are not that big I believe

Has heating and cooling so very conservative engineering

 

In for annual service today.

Shall see if from end of 5-year service package they can turn off the spanner display that comes up every year.

If not no biggie I will price battery-related checks and items at Honda. Also Honda Assist though they should pay since it is 100% for BEV faults.

All of the few remaining 'standard car' items my indy can perform: pollen filter swap, brakes maintenance and/or fluid change, transmission fluid change. Drop links as and when they go.

 

I assume electric pump and it would chuck a dash fault on the battery management

After your inst issue I put a £10 OBD reader under my driver's seat. Somewhere I have one which connects to a smartphone app called Torque - now I have never had a code on any of my Hondas but it was really good on my mum's old Signum (which had lots of ****ing codes, pos)

will test it, but you probably want the standalone, that clears faults so potentially can do what your AA man did

I honestly think over the next 3 yrs / 15k min will need brake fluid and a pollen filter

Honda (dealers) are total shyte, they should have done the brake fluid this year but did not - be interested to see if yours is done