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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 03:38 AM
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Tis true SC is a constant true nevertheless it affects ROI.

My low rate 7.5p high rate 31.03p daily 42.01p. So obviously inc of VAT but we are further from Ratcliffe
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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by arsie
Tis true SC is a constant true nevertheless it affects ROI.
tell me how. All I am seeing is the more day rate I shift to night the more I benefit.

​​​​​​However

250kwh at 7.14 - £17.95240kwh at 29.7 - £71.28
total £89.23
If the battery can reduce that 24kwh at 29.7 £7.12216kwh at 7.14 - £15.42

Total £22.54

Saving £67 over 26 days or £77 a month (made an error first time but this is on my phone...)

Will do a spreadsheet at some point

in both cases SC is 46.35 a day so remains £14 a month





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Old Jul 5, 2023 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Nottm_S2
tell me how. All I am seeing is the more day rate I shift to night the more I benefit.

​​​​​​However

250kwh at 7.14 - £17.95240kwh at 29.7 - £71.28
total £89.23
If the battery can reduce that 24kwh at 29.7 £7.12216kwh at 7.14 - £15.42

Total £22.54

Saving £67 over 26 days or £77 a month (made an error first time but this is on my phone...)

Will do a spreadsheet at some point

in both cases SC is 46.35 a day so remains £14 a month
Jason, I cannot get away from the SC having to be paid and therefore diluting (increasing) daily costs on low/high rate (with VAT) charges.

At 20p/unit average for 20 units if the SC adds ~40p/day elec is really costing you 22p/unit.

So payback increases by 10% (22p v 20p) due to the SC.
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Old Jul 6, 2023 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by arsie
Jason, I cannot get away from the SC having to be paid and therefore diluting (increasing) daily costs on low/high rate (with VAT) charges.

At 20p/unit average for 20 units if the SC adds ~40p/day elec is really costing you 22p/unit.

So payback increases by 10% (22p v 20p) due to the SC.
If I remain as is I pay £14 standing charge
If I put a battery in I pay £14 standing charge

The difference, which affects ROI is shifting load from day to night, that's all the batteries achieve.

I'll post a better excel bit..

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Old Jul 7, 2023 | 09:52 AM
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Hi all,

New Jizz + its new feet - 60 mpg however you drive :-)



More Mugen to come......

Chris.

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Old Jul 7, 2023 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisr111
Hi all,

New Jizz + its new feet - 60 mpg however you drive :-)



More Mugen to come......

Chris.
Is it any good?

I have been mooching around the EV6.. the new Honda's are not really my bag but I quite like the Kia to sit in at least.

Could fit another dag in that

on AVG my leccy is probably costing 15p a kWh at new rates.. so sub 5p a mile

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Old Jul 8, 2023 | 11:46 AM
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The range is better than the e.

When the tank is full the range is aooumd 700 miles.

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Old Jul 8, 2023 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisr111
The range is better than the e.

When the tank is full the range is aooumd 700 miles.

Chris.
Haha

Don't think I have done a 700 mile trip in a car since I was a kid. Have you?

It's like my old BM, top speed 170 or whatever. I never did that or close. A stat.
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Range is an issue but the payback of cheap, hassle free and easy is compelling, even if you don't care about the env

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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 01:39 AM
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I have. Recently too, up to my mates place about an hour north of Oban. largely irrelevant as my bladder needs emptying before any car I've had needs a fill up.

I'm replacing 2 cars with one later this year an alongside a Rav 4 the Jazz Crosstar and CR-V Hybrid are on the list. It's time to run one car that's both practical and comfortable but also reasonably economical.

Not sure the E is good enough to be that car but the hybrid tech in the other two puts them on the list. Just need a bit more depreciation to knock them down to sensible money.

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Old Jul 10, 2023 | 05:07 AM
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The e is not an only car unless you are ok with hiring a car on occasion or never schlepp or don't mind charging

err indoors finds car travel uncomfortable (bad back) and I can't be arsed so we rarely if ever travel beyond the range of the e. I like it on a journey but she wants a tank. That tank won't be hybrid though unless under warranty, pure ICE or pure BEV, probably the latter as my setup means very cheap running costs but the EV6 is £45k+, I could get a Macan turbo for that (and probably break down a lot)











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