It's always when some chump gets his snips out

The e has factory alarm with little buttons for the dog. Another good thing on a BEV, I can leave her in the car, climate on, alarm on but her not setting it off, while I foray the sains local...

The paint is soft as shit though.. I need to machine polish it and go mad with carlack and zaino

 

Here'a question for you to mull over.

What's greener. A 5 year old Euro5 compliant reasonably economical ( say late 30s mpg) 2nd hand petrol vehicle worth about 10k and probably weighing in around 1400kg

Or a 53k brand new two tonne EV stuffed full of lithium batteries.

And that needs to take into account production of vehicle, battery material sourcing etc. The true full cost. Oh and the cost of tyre wear / road wear from the weight.

Personally, i think net carbon neutral is Western Govt marketing bollocks / a massive con. I don't believe there is any serious drive to produce cheap / free green electricity for the masses, the only factor driving that is the allure of near 100% profits after manufacture.

Atr risk of going all 'Commie' until we wake up to the idea that electricity / energy generation should be as green and as cheap as possible for everyone then we're just kidding ourselves. Community wind turbines where all of the 'profit' from what is charged goes to pay for it until it is paid off and then bills go down until you cover only the upkeep and maintenance ( not for profit) should be where the future lies. They still need to crack a way of storing / generating power when the wind isn't blowing. Maybe that IS by leaving your EV connected to the grid as well as each house with a solar system / power wall. I doubt anything this altruistic is ever able to be agreed.

Until BEV can be driven solely by this then it's madness, a green toy for the well heeled burbs only instead of affordable transport for the inner cities where it really matters.

 

Notts , that effectively the same with the Reno , we have been instructed to use that setting until it goes in for rectification next week.

Fester , I am not convinced about any of the ideas re carbon , green , economics etc , but do nothing and in 50 years your proved wrong we are in the shit , do something and in 50 years it’s all good, phew, we dodged a bullet until Ebola or something gets us

my wifes mum paid for the car , the wife liked the car , the car now known as Edna. Wife was going to spend £30-35k on a car so why not electric , suits our retired lifestyle as has been said 75% of time relatively short journeys , doing it in a quite , comfy nice way. Already had a couple of people say what’s that how much etc.

 

It doesn't have to wash it's face on environmental scorecard to make sense for anyone here

What you do will not change the course of global warming, if that is what is happening, in any way

This entire country contributes the square root of **** all to that regardless of our monging middle class just stop oil shits

but for daily trans you want comfy, quick, reliable, cheap to run.. a lot of boxes ticked by a BEV there is the point. High entry cost, low running cost

Buying a new ICE now? It's risky, they are mostly strangled 3 pot shit heaps unless you go large and then the taxman will **** you in the ass

£695 to tax a leggy M3
£0 to tax a Tesla which is probably better at 95% of things

a diesel? Well do you trust Starmer to leave you alone?

Catch 22..

 

Agreed on doing something but you do need a fair chunk of disposable to have that choice.

Otherwise it's 10 year old Leafs and really shit range

Toyota's new affordable BZ thing is north of 50k for the top one. Their GTMV after a 3 year lease is more than a new Jazz hybrid.

Agree 100% about being honest with yourself about your use case before purchasing. I could get away with a BEV but not all the time, certainly can't rely on Trains.

I still think a decent hybrid as long as it has MFR warranty is where I'm at - on the basis I need a car with decent range every so often. I pathologically hate queuing

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/used-ev-values-could-collapse-due-fleet-dumping

Interesting read for buyer and seller

 

The gov meddling always has a backlash

They created the housing bubble with removal of stamp
A car demand bubble with free £ and no BIK and resulting slump in prices that chappo who couldn't afford a Porsche with a Porsche was crying about...

It's already biting but probs short lived as regardless of Rishiism int rates are gonna be not free for a bit

twats

Yeah, a good jap hybrid with warranty is safe enough. Toyota have the most expertise on that I think

Or you could exploit rishi's unintended consequences

 

Reno have made a royal mess of the charging soft ware , instead of like most manufacturers designing it around the international standard they used thier own interpretation end result 50% of chargers won’t work with the car including Myenergi Zappi , which is the one that integrates with Solar PV and battery storage , shit , if I had researched this car would have dropped to bottom of list !

however there is a serious firmware update on its way which need to be done at dealers not by wifi

generally car is still great , Reno are seriously tarnished though , they knew about the problem in January

 

So basically it's Windows ME.

 

Not just Renault.

Our 'e' took exception to Instavolt charger site south of Swindon and came up with dash display error 'fast charge failure. Only normal charging'. Honda Assist called in as we were 150 miles from home with 50 miles in the battery. AA man came in 10 mins plugged in OBD. Nothing. We tried another (Gridserve) charger he held the CCS connector firmly until connection protocol successful. He surmised the weight of the DC cables with the high Honda bonnet socket ports had led to dodgy contact in the 5-pin AC part of the connector that establishes the car-to-charger connection.

Dealer service person is ****ing useless. "We don't have a fast charger at the garage so cannot investigate" (annual service already booked). There is one less than a mile away at a Starbucks. I bought the car from them and I will be needing a meeting with the dealership principal. But I have no doubt the same or near as software will control Honda's grown up BEVs as is in the 'e'. This message I got is not in the manual nor is there really anything much at all on charging troubleshooting.

 

It's not unexpected is it? These companies make hardware, good software that works with an evolving infrastructure?

Not likely

The e gets by through not doing much, it throttles the charging to protect the battery, at the opposite end Tesla don't give a shyte

Its fine when it's 35kwh total, 28 usable but not at double that

I don't want any patches to the e, lucky cos I won't get em I guess with it being quietly dropped