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Originally Posted by MINES13,Feb 2 2007, 10:59 AM
Getting a proven prototype up with testing on both 2.2 and 2.0 engines would be your first move. Likely the optimum setup wouldn't be identical on both engines. AFter development you could contract someone in China or Taiwan to make the piping/ancillaries. Unfortuneately, doing a molded piece which would be ideal, but would cost atleast 20-25 grand. Atleast the last time my dad made a mold in china for a one piece part thats about what it cost. But that was also a straight injection mold. Not sure about a rotomold. Would be cheapest to fab them with aluminum and then coat them with SwainTech. Atleast in a low volume application.
Roto-molding is VERY expensive, if you are going for thousands of pieces than it would be worth it, but the molds like you said run upwards of 25k....
Im going to be making the heatshield today, mines try and snap a quick picture for me, Im very interested in your heatshield....
also mines, when you tested the FIPK did you do a baseline the same day? install the intake and run again?
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I agree 100% with everything you said regarding testing and variance in baseline numbers. I really have issues with inertial dynos, but that is neither here nor there. I have actually been on your dyno during USCC 2 years ago. I find it very hard to swallow even with your graphs that you made a 10whp gain. But anything is possible I guess. I know I didn't make anywhere near the numbers you saw on any of my dyno pulls at any time. Then again, I have never seen any other CAI yeild any better results on an S2000. Again, I am not calling you a liar just from what I've seen this is hard to swallow.
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Originally Posted by MINES13,Feb 2 2007, 01:34 PM
I agree 100% with everything you said regarding testing and variance in baseline numbers. I really have issues with inertial dynos, but that is neither here nor there. I have actually been on your dyno during USCC 2 years ago. I find it very hard to swallow even with your graphs that you made a 10whp gain. But anything is possible I guess. I know I didn't make anywhere near the numbers you saw on any of my dyno pulls at any time. Then again, I have never seen any other CAI yeild any better results on an S2000. Again, I am not calling you a liar just from what I've seen this is hard to swallow.
I found it VERY hard to swallow, I have had my s2k for about a year now, I have been working here at K&N 9 months, and I have had the opertunity to get a free intake whenever i wanted, I always put it off because I had heard about the power gains and how minimal they were.
but a month ago I gave it a shot, and was pleasently suprised.
I really really, want someone else to dyno this intake, back to back. 3rd party....... to bad Nate already has ITB's because i know he has a big dyno day coming up, I would send him out the intake for testing.
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Originally Posted by BlownAP,Feb 2 2007, 03:03 PM
I found it VERY hard to swallow, I have had my s2k for about a year now, I have been working here at K&N 9 months, and I have had the opertunity to get a free intake whenever i wanted, I always put it off because I had heard about the power gains and how minimal they were.
but a month ago I gave it a shot, and was pleasently suprised.
I really really, want someone else to dyno this intake, back to back. 3rd party....... to bad Nate already has ITB's because i know he has a big dyno day coming up, I would send him out the intake for testing.
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I have an AWD Mustang in ground with dual PAUs at my shop, but I have ITBs on my car now so I can not perform this test with my car. However honestly, I believe you need to test both a stock AP2 and a stock AP1. It is entirely possibly, and I have said this before, the 2.2 may not react to a given intake the way a 2.0 will. Positive or negative. Hell, I may just have to design my own CAI. In fact, our exchange just inspired me to bust out the draft paper. 