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Old Mar 8, 2010 | 12:39 PM
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I must be slow, you'll have to explain your point to me.
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okay, since you edited your post-
In that thread I provided information based on my experience in S2000s and building cars for the ST category. You responded by saying the claims were baseless and I was being nasty about it.

I only remember it because in over 9 years on S2ki and 8 on SCCAForums, both of those adjectives, while certainly not the worst, were firsts for me. In reviewing my posts I didn't see anything the least bit nasty, what I saw I would describe as "correct". Knowing what you know now, wouldn't you?

Nick, sorry 'bout that. Looks like both your cars would be under 2600 if based on delete CR's. Can't wait to see you guys go head-to-head with the Miata boys, most everybody in So Cal is doing an NC.
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jzr,Mar 8 2010, 04:31 PM
I thought the lightest cars were going to be in the mid 2600-lb range?
http://sccaforums.com/forums/permalink/366...ead.aspx#361338

Nick's AP2 is 2670 now, 2635 with a few other mods, and it still has its A/C and top?

Perhaps those "baseless and nasty" claims were just better informed?

http://sccaforums.com/forums/permalink/366...ead.aspx#361410
ahem - just to clarify - mine is at 2650ish - Matt's is 2670ish.

Which is completely within the noise of different scales if you ask me. Only advantage I have over him is the header and he has a lighter seat. I bet if we put them on the same scales - they are within 10lbs of each other.


Oh and mine definitely makes more than 220whp on a Dynojet...
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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There's nothing to argue Marc, the scale (and now dyno) numbers speak for themselves. Good luck everyone!
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jzr,Mar 8 2010, 02:08 PM
There's nothing to argue Marc, the scale (and now dyno) numbers speak for themselves. Good luck everyone!
I think I'm seeing some confusion here, so let me clarify ... I claimed you will not see the s2000 under 2600 (based on the HPT scale at the time) while having to run a full tank. So far, this proves true to this day. When Matt said he could run 4 gallons, I was surprised and happy. What exactly are you trying to prove here and call me out on? Is this a "ha ha, told you so" moment? If so there is always the PM button to spare everyone else the drama.

Again, the only way to truly compare is to run these cars in question on the same dyno and weigh them on the same scales. I said I was willing to do this. No one else did. So what is the issue?

I have yet to see a same day, same scale/dyno with a climed fully prepped 2400lb, 140whp Miata and a sub 2600lb, 220whp s2000.

EDIT: I went back and found I was making the "baseless" and "nasty" comments to Geoff Chambers, not you. I even thanked you for your input. This is why people need to read the whole thread instead of taking things out of context. For those who really want to clarify, PM is your friend. I also deleted the previous posts to preserve this thread ... sorry guys.

-Marc
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by glagola1,Mar 3 2010, 04:34 PM
I just finished installing a T1R 70RT EM and I have to say this is the nicest exhaust I've ever seen. It shaved 41lbs off the back of the car and it's 70mm.... and here's the kicker, it's totally a livable exhaust. It doesn't have any highway drone and the sound at it's loudest is in lower RPMs. I just can't believe I can have my cake and eat it too. We're lucky to have light, free flowing, and quiet-ish exhausts available.
Glad to hear your review on the T1R 70RT EM. I just picked one up to put on my AP1. I was a little worried, as I don't want something too loud.
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 06:16 PM
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Pics from our 1st Atlanta event


(thanks to Perry Bennett for some awesome pics!)

Ordering some wing risers to get the wing higher to make it higher
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianGT,Mar 8 2010, 08:16 PM
Pics from our 1st Atlanta event

(thanks to Perry Bennett for some awesome pics!)

Ordering some wing risers to get the wing higher to make it higher
Nice shots. Where are the videos? Isn't that a video camera on the trunk in front of the wing?
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sirbunz,Mar 8 2010, 02:19 PM
I have yet to see a same day, same scale/dyno with a climed fully prepped 2320lb, 150whp+ Miata and a sub 2600lb, 220whp s2000.

-Marc
Weight from my STR MX5 5spd build.

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.php?p=4...1&postcount=553

A dyno plot from the person responsible for bringing us the only STR legal header. Keep in mind, this is not tuned, just header/exhaust and CAI.

http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.php?p=4...0&postcount=429

Take these numbers for what they are worth, scales and dyno's do vary. Our cars are still in the early stages of development, but the current numbers are encouraging.

Jeff
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sirbunz,Mar 8 2010, 02:39 PM
Listen to Tommy on fine tuning it. I can vouch for his setup recommendations! He likes the car a bit on the loose side. The S2k puts down the best times IMO having mild oversteer. Push will never work for corner exit (very important for this car) so learn to deal with the tail and be brave! (not responsible if you wreck )

Currently with street tires (stock Bridgestone RE070s 215/255), I am within 1.5 seconds (30 second course) of my B-Stock times using the same setup and settings. I can't wait to get some non staggered Toyos on there!

-Marc
Ha ha ha... that's funny. Tommy is always trying to make it tighter than I want it. Once again, I think driving the car on the front wheels is getting to me.
Old Mar 8, 2010 | 06:47 PM
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Brian - you on Hankooks? Thoughts on them so far?



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