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Old Jan 2, 2023 | 12:25 AM
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Successful expedition visiting the grandchildren to/from Kent via Dartford Xing reporting in.

Of the known reliable contactless-only chargers (I am smart phone a phobic) we used MFG at A11 Barton Mills (five ways services) 40 miles from home each way with a 90 miles trip each way from there to Kent. Not sure what happened it was extremely busy on the way out, almost all of the 8 bays were occupied and in an hour or so struggled to charge fully back up so we arrived with only 5 miles range remaining. Quite relaxed as management had once been subject to a ride home in Norfolk of ten miles with zero range showing

Return journey New Year's day very little traffic about MFG got us from 20% to 90% adding about 20kWh in less than an hour.

Fallback chargers Instavolt (at McD Newmarket) and Gridserve (Thurrock Svcs J30 on M25).
The former only goes at 7kWh/hour so is less attractive except to top up.

Range anxiety beast well and truly slain now for me.
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Old Jan 2, 2023 | 02:53 AM
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good work

I am mixed on it as we discussed. the media reports of stacked charging bays and a single experience of such put me off so i will use ICE for such schlepps where i plan to exceed the range in a day (NEC in 2 weeks being the next example)

...but so far the car has cost me £0 bar fuel.. not a thing

clocked up over 10k miles in the 2 years i've owned it

@100mpge (guesstimate of avg cost) that's about 100 gallons of squirt or £750
@18mpg that the M3 did that's 555 gallons or £4,166


but again.. currently we pay 32.8p a kwh, a 134% hike on when i bought it which is very annoying
i believe the cheap stuff is £7 a gallon

i am getting **** all miles per kw on little drags around town at sub 5C, maybe 2.5 avg so 13p a mile? or 53mpge (this would be 125 in winter at pre war cost)

but still £0 tax, £0 maint, zero hassle

i will need new rear tyres soon so the cherry will be popped then, c£200 for a pair

depreciation is all spurious in the current env, this is the closest to my miles but newer than mine, +£2k more than i paid but that happened to everything i guess

https://usedcars.honda.co.uk/en/used...-alloy-n5cyyt2
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Old Jan 2, 2023 | 04:50 AM
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used car price still ludicrous eh. whats that, a 5% drop compared to (at the time) new? madness.

keeping the old CRZ for a while yet still, though its got the first patch of tin worm on the drivers rear arch now
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Old Jan 2, 2023 | 05:37 AM
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I think it's compounded on this car as the gov removed what they called a grant (but which in reality was just a VAT cut on BEVs) so the price shot up a chunk - probably true of all BEVs

From what I read there is an expectation current high car prices will plunge this year

Back to gov,
I​​​n reality they know they failed to prepare, as per usual, and so the country is in no way ready for a 50-75% hike in electricity demand

Monthly fuel costs for, at a guess 600-650 ish miles:




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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 02:03 AM
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On Nov 4 my odo read 12,788

Jan 10 13,807

In between those dates I have put in
180kwh in Nov (after the 4th)
250kwh in Dec
42kwh in Jan

472kwh in total or a tragic 2.15m/kWh
At 32p that is 14.8p a mile same as 50 mpg at 750p a gallon (that is a total guess)

And if the gov stops or reduces subsidy it becomes a beautiful garden ornament

edit apparently it's subb150p a litre which makes it 680p a gal and my cost equiv to 46mpg

Rubbish



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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 04:06 AM
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2nd hand Tesla prices are in freefall. Who would have thought?
https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publ...n-value/277342
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 11:23 AM
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Sounds like you need to shift the 'e' on sooner rather than later if thinking of doing so
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Old Jan 10, 2023 | 01:02 PM
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My chances of moving swiftly with the missus's views and mine being polar opp are zero. It will stay till summer

My gripes are not with the little Honda, it does a job as by far the highest miler on my little fleet and is a very compelling little thing. A bit slow perhaps.
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It's more with the cretins crashing the country. I can't wait to vote them out.

The price crash makes me feel better. Like people are paying attention and telling the car crash gov to fluck off

It will affect all modern cars however

look at this line.. this is the reality of the cock up.. 63p a kWh
4.5 times higher than 12m ago @ 63p

And how much russian gas did we use to make it? 4% of our total usage.

And none from new years day.
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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 12:43 AM
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Strikes me that if 63.09p/unit is the price to the consumer how does that sit with on-the-road EV charger prices...

79p, 75p, 69p, 65p/unit are typical it almost looks like the charger co'ys are taking no profit?

And/or the electricity supply co'ys are ripping the consumers off?

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Old Jan 11, 2023 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by tjockhult
2nd hand Tesla prices are in freefall. Who would have thought?
https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publ...n-value/277342
But Honda 'e' prices seem to be holding e.g. this. Dealer must have paid out £26,000 or thereabouts for this 2yo 18k miles asking £29k+.
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-det...ceDeposit=true


Nice wheels and discrete matching bonnet trim added
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