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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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all i know is that dynapacks are very friendly with power. i am sure that if properly setup, a dynapack could give a fairly accurate reading. on the average a dynojet/mustang dyno will real lower/closer to reality than a dynapack will.

wyatt axiom has dynapacks. that is where i tuned my vafc and pulled 230+ on their dyno.
Old Mar 31, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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from my expirence i have seen ap2's put a little more than 5whp more than ap1's. my car pulled 197rwhp bone stock. close friend who had(wrecked) ap2 put 201rwhp, both on a mustang dyno.
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Originally Posted by versionJDM,Mar 31 2006, 09:51 PM
all i know is that dynapacks are very friendly with power. i am sure that if properly setup, a dynapack could give a fairly accurate reading. on the average a dynojet/mustang dyno will real lower/closer to reality than a dynapack will.

wyatt axiom has dynapacks. that is where i tuned my vafc and pulled 230+ on their dyno.
And how many dynapacks have you actually done comparison tests and runs on in person? You know this from all the misinformation floating around or firsthand experience? I've dynoed my car on a dynojet twice (stock 192) and 212 with Mugen Header, Intake, Amuse R1, Toda Spec A Cams. I've dynoed on a dynapack with above modifications, plus Toda Head, ITBs, and tune 221 (initial tune with UL, just to get it running) and subsequently with Giles (235). I don't think the numbers are that off considering one is with standalone ECU and tune. This was done on 2 different dynapacks so it really depends on how it's set-up which is the case with any dyno and operator. I've seen guys post dynos on here (s2ki and other boards) with correction factors that are off the charts.
Old Apr 1, 2006 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by versionJDM,Mar 31 2006, 09:55 PM
from my expirence i have seen ap2's put a little more than 5whp more than ap1's. my car pulled 197rwhp bone stock. close friend who had(wrecked) ap2 put 201rwhp, both on a mustang dyno.
this is a perfect example, if search function worked I could bring up mustang charts where people have gotten in the 180s on a mustang dyno and people say that is normal because mustang dynos read lower then dynojets.
Old Apr 1, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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when did this thread become a dyno battle???? Let's keep the focus of this thread where it originally was. We all know the error in all dynoes, and the difference. This is why we state what dyno we have used to calculate our hp. I'm surprised to see so many high NA powered car show up to this thread once a list is made to see the highest NA powered s2K's. Yet it's great to see so many are reaching great results.
Old Apr 1, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by HvRRZ,Apr 1 2006, 09:16 AM
when did this thread become a dyno battle???? Let's keep the focus of this thread where it originally was. We all know the error in all dynoes, and the difference. This is why we state what dyno we have used to calculate our hp. I'm surprised to see so many high NA powered car show up to this thread once a list is made to see the highest NA powered s2K's. Yet it's great to see so many are reaching great results.
so i need 9rwhp to get to me 230rwhp goal.
Old Apr 1, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HvRRZ,Mar 31 2006, 07:39 PM
I don't know who number one is, but I'd like to know his set-up aswell.

I also don't know what you mean by there being bad info in this thread. So far everything we have talked about, and the numbers we have all predicted with our current set-ups have come to reality. Most of us that do participate in this thread are reaching for similar goals without the option of increasing compression to do so. I to can easilly build my motor NA upwards of 300whp if I wanted too, but my goal is to get the most out of this motor with these minor mods. Down the line who knows??? I may decide to build it further, but most likely once my NA goal is reached it'll be time for LoveFab
I didn't come here to argue , I came here to help out . No one said you needed to go the root of high compression . I came here to back G-s2ks car ,as I am the builder .You guys started the list not me . If you didn't want the real players to step up you should have asked for the most powerful bolt on NA s2000's . But who is going to say what is bolt on and what is not .

You guys started the argument of dyno when you started claiming that dynapack plots favor high . I responded with a article that proved it to be wrong , and I also posted it is the operators responsiblity to make sure his equipment is setup correctly .


Read the post I was responding to and find the misinformation for yourself. Just one of many .

Bolt ons are not new for the S, People have been trying to do this from day one . I know myself and I am sure Dan can back this up , But I have seen threads like this come and go for the past 5 years .



All I have to say is this , read my sig . S2000's pay my bills how about you ? There are many respected members in this thread that will tell you I am not a ricer shop . I am appointment only and I don't advertise or have a sign on my building to promote walk-ins . You only get to me by referral , and i do pick and chose my work because I can .

ex. Most took everything Kayvan said as fact about the VAFC but yet when he called me to talk about what to do next he admitted that he is not a tuner ( profesionaly ) that he has only experiance with the VAFC . But yet online he argued and told me I needed to get experience and he knew tuning not to argue. He has now sold his VAFC in favor of the EU as per my recommendation .

I will share a secret . There is more power to be found in timing than in fuel.
Old Apr 1, 2006 | 06:54 PM
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^^ what is "eu"?
Old Apr 1, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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this is one of the most usefull threads for those of us (myself included) too stubborn/cheap/poor to bite the bullet and go F/I with their S2K. I will be making my first dyno run with the S in a few weeks on a dynojet when a my room mate with a TT supra gets his car tuned (for like the 20th time). i have no idea what i will make because i have never dynoed the car, but i am torn between ricks header and getting a vafc or an e-manage system. i am leaning towards the header because i have an 02 so it has the more agressive ecu and i am worried about messing with the stock computer for relibality issues. ricks headerseems to offer some gain in the midrange of both hp and tq for about the same cost as it would cost to get a vafc installed and tuned correctly, with that in mind does anyone think the vafc is a better way to go than the headers or should i consider the VAFC/e-manage? (i dont want to have to constantly tune the system, if i got it i would want to tune it once than leave it alone. what do you guys think??? any info would help.
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 01:29 AM
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not sae corrected.

sae corrected should be 218-221 whp. I gotta call em on monday to sae correct it.

wow for only a head gasket, intake manifold gasket and exhaust im on the right path.



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