the Official "NA Tuning" thread
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Hehehe, who knows. Someone else from this thread, I'm sure. Thatd make this mint VAFCII an S2ki artifact!!!
Louie, a shot?? Huh? Anyways, who is the tuner in UP you referred to? Lets get our Emanages and get down to TF this month!!! There is a BLUE in the FS section now I was referring to, but now I am not sure between that and an Ultimate! AH!
Louie, a shot?? Huh? Anyways, who is the tuner in UP you referred to? Lets get our Emanages and get down to TF this month!!! There is a BLUE in the FS section now I was referring to, but now I am not sure between that and an Ultimate! AH!
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Originally Posted by WyattH,Apr 5 2006, 02:09 PM
Hehehe, who knows. Someone else from this thread, I'm sure. Thatd make this mint VAFCII an S2ki artifact!!!
Louie, a shot?? Huh? Anyways, who is the tuner in UP you referred to? Lets get our Emanages and get down to TF this month!!! There is a BLUE in the FS section now I was referring to, but now I am not sure between that and an Ultimate! AH!
Louie, a shot?? Huh? Anyways, who is the tuner in UP you referred to? Lets get our Emanages and get down to TF this month!!! There is a BLUE in the FS section now I was referring to, but now I am not sure between that and an Ultimate! AH!
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Hahaha I see.
Why do you want the Ultimate?
Baller? Hardly. I'm trying to buy a used BLUE!!!
Does SpeedFactory have a dyno?
I think I am going to tune it at TF, then dyno at your Mustang in Vancouver on the way home... Dayam I still don't know what kind of dyno I want to run on. One with the wheels still on... So either Mustang or... Dynojet? Which reads higher?
Why do you want the Ultimate?
Baller? Hardly. I'm trying to buy a used BLUE!!!
Does SpeedFactory have a dyno?
I think I am going to tune it at TF, then dyno at your Mustang in Vancouver on the way home... Dayam I still don't know what kind of dyno I want to run on. One with the wheels still on... So either Mustang or... Dynojet? Which reads higher?
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I wonder why the TF Dynoday read so low... They were all 198-204 whp. 
AP2s on an average day with different intakes. Oh well!
Ben @ AJ-R is encouraging me to keep my Buddy Club ECU.
Does anybody here have experience or opinions?
AP2s on an average day with different intakes. Oh well!Ben @ AJ-R is encouraging me to keep my Buddy Club ECU.
Does anybody here have experience or opinions?
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I just got off the phone with Jason @ TorqueFreaks.
First off, I'd like to say he was a very polite and informative guy. Whether I tune there or not, I'll probably go there to dyno just for his attitude.
He was up front in saying that the BLUE would be everything I needed, and then some. Even if I am blown down the road. He said the datalogging of the EU is nice, but not necessary if you have a proper tune and don't track a whole lot. He also said the ability for 2 maps is nice, but it's quite a hassle toggling through and confirming the map changes. It's not as effortless as it should be.
He said for someone with a setup like mine, a VAFC would be just fine. It will achieve similar peak power and mid-range. He said the AEM EMS would even give similar numbers, but would improve drivability whereas the others will not.
He said that with his experience, there is only room for maybe 1-2 degrees of advanced timing on an S2000 (running the 92 fuel we have here). He said that would net a few ponies, but they would be expensive ponies.
At the end of the day, I will keep my eyes open for a used BLUE. If nothing comes up soon (Kinetica
), I will keep my Buddy Club ECU and just tune for AFR and VTEC engagement.
Here is an email from Ben @ AJ-R regarding my concerns about the BC ECU and the Emanage:
"The reson I recommended the BC instead of Greddy is becasue the stock ECU will compensate after we move the timing curve."
^ Can someone please explain that for me?
Does that mean when we adjust the timing with an Emanage, the stock ECU will still go back to original timing curves?
First off, I'd like to say he was a very polite and informative guy. Whether I tune there or not, I'll probably go there to dyno just for his attitude.
He was up front in saying that the BLUE would be everything I needed, and then some. Even if I am blown down the road. He said the datalogging of the EU is nice, but not necessary if you have a proper tune and don't track a whole lot. He also said the ability for 2 maps is nice, but it's quite a hassle toggling through and confirming the map changes. It's not as effortless as it should be.
He said for someone with a setup like mine, a VAFC would be just fine. It will achieve similar peak power and mid-range. He said the AEM EMS would even give similar numbers, but would improve drivability whereas the others will not.
He said that with his experience, there is only room for maybe 1-2 degrees of advanced timing on an S2000 (running the 92 fuel we have here). He said that would net a few ponies, but they would be expensive ponies.
At the end of the day, I will keep my eyes open for a used BLUE. If nothing comes up soon (Kinetica
), I will keep my Buddy Club ECU and just tune for AFR and VTEC engagement.Here is an email from Ben @ AJ-R regarding my concerns about the BC ECU and the Emanage:
"The reson I recommended the BC instead of Greddy is becasue the stock ECU will compensate after we move the timing curve."
^ Can someone please explain that for me?
Does that mean when we adjust the timing with an Emanage, the stock ECU will still go back to original timing curves?
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Mang... I paid like $500 for it (V-Con is another $50).
It's still new in the box... You know how I do...
I'd sell it to you for $430? Ben really recommends it over the Emanage. I don't know why I have this urge to go Emanage now... Grrr. The best thing about it is that Ben has a good rate for tuning, does a great job, and is semi-local for you for when you want it tuned.
Mang... I paid like $500 for it (V-Con is another $50).
It's still new in the box... You know how I do...
I'd sell it to you for $430? Ben really recommends it over the Emanage. I don't know why I have this urge to go Emanage now... Grrr. The best thing about it is that Ben has a good rate for tuning, does a great job, and is semi-local for you for when you want it tuned.
It's still new in the box... You know how I do...
I'd sell it to you for $430? Ben really recommends it over the Emanage. I don't know why I have this urge to go Emanage now... Grrr. The best thing about it is that Ben has a good rate for tuning, does a great job, and is semi-local for you for when you want it tuned.
Mang... I paid like $500 for it (V-Con is another $50).
It's still new in the box... You know how I do...
I'd sell it to you for $430? Ben really recommends it over the Emanage. I don't know why I have this urge to go Emanage now... Grrr. The best thing about it is that Ben has a good rate for tuning, does a great job, and is semi-local for you for when you want it tuned.