S2000 STR prep resource
Sounds like you need to have one each
and pick the right one based on the course design.
For most of our local courses, I think that an AP2 would be superior, but for a course not requiring the AP1 to downshift to 1st, who knows.
-Brian
and pick the right one based on the course design.For most of our local courses, I think that an AP2 would be superior, but for a course not requiring the AP1 to downshift to 1st, who knows.
-Brian
Originally Posted by BrianGT,Jul 9 2010, 11:31 AM
Sounds like you need to have one each
and pick the right one based on the course design.
For most of our local courses, I think that an AP2 would be superior, but for a course not requiring the AP1 to downshift to 1st, who knows.
-Brian
and pick the right one based on the course design.For most of our local courses, I think that an AP2 would be superior, but for a course not requiring the AP1 to downshift to 1st, who knows.
-Brian
I was going to punt on the AP1 before the Blytheville NT and not develop it... until I saw how good Tommy drove your wife's 2001. Once I saw that, I bought CAI, Berk Cat, muffler removal with turn down pipe, VAFCII, mounted the tires on the 949's and got it all ready just in time for Peru. To my disappointment, I still was sucking wind with the lack of low end TQ and lack of driver skill.
Was it just me or was that course the suckage for our S2000, esp the AP1? I've already admitted to my lack of driving skills, so I know that was a large contributor as well.I do have room for one more mod that could apply to both AP1 and 06+... a header, but the one I want is $1400. The diff will have to come later once I make up my mind.
-D
from a money stand point dave I would campain your ap1 and just buy parts that will transfer over to a ap2 (cr
) for the next year or so and see how this plays out. No reason in spending a extra 10,000 or so on a car that might not prove to be worth it. although as I noob I know nothing
) for the next year or so and see how this plays out. No reason in spending a extra 10,000 or so on a car that might not prove to be worth it. although as I noob I know nothing
Good advice from you both...
I really need to give myself some time to adapt to street tires and all the available adjustments that STR allows.
This is just a hot point for me right now as I just got frustrated at Peru where I either was out of powerband (day 1) or doing the 2-1 downshift (day 2)... and good gawd street tires hate the downshift, esp. with the recent mods. For the downshift, I probably would have been better off not having the extra power goodies.
Maybe Nats would be better.... I've heard that NE is much, much, much bigger and grippier than KS. That just might work for the AP1. Too bad I didn't get any practice of that with the Peru NT.
Hmm... how to get much more seat time?
-Dave
I really need to give myself some time to adapt to street tires and all the available adjustments that STR allows.
This is just a hot point for me right now as I just got frustrated at Peru where I either was out of powerband (day 1) or doing the 2-1 downshift (day 2)... and good gawd street tires hate the downshift, esp. with the recent mods. For the downshift, I probably would have been better off not having the extra power goodies.

Maybe Nats would be better.... I've heard that NE is much, much, much bigger and grippier than KS. That just might work for the AP1. Too bad I didn't get any practice of that with the Peru NT.
Hmm... how to get much more seat time?
-Dave
Originally Posted by BrianGT,Jul 9 2010, 04:50 AM
How much different is the AP2 rear geometry? If we were to transfer over our AP1 setup to an AP2 would the car setup feel drastically different, will the higher spring rates and lower, more static ride height negate any significant change in behavior?`
Originally Posted by daverx7,Jul 9 2010, 11:36 AM
Good advice from you both...
This is just a hot point for me right now as I just got frustrated at Peru where I either was out of powerband (day 1) or doing the 2-1 downshift (day 2)... and good gawd street tires hate the downshift, esp. with the recent mods. For the downshift, I probably would have been better off not having the extra power goodies.
This is just a hot point for me right now as I just got frustrated at Peru where I either was out of powerband (day 1) or doing the 2-1 downshift (day 2)... and good gawd street tires hate the downshift, esp. with the recent mods. For the downshift, I probably would have been better off not having the extra power goodies.
Wow, did the intake/HFC/VAFC net you that much power? I still haven't got around to installing/tuning my VAFC but have the intake and HFC on the car now. Maybe I'll bump it up the priority list.
Another suggestion is to try to get a co-drive in a much more powerful car. It'll teach you throttle modulation in a hurry. I spent a season in a 500 hp Camaro on a mix of Hoosiers and Falken Azenis. Way too much fun! The mullet comes right off after the season without issue too.

Any track days near you on slower tracks? Running a 225 street tire all around will teach you proper throttle modulation.
Dave, if you DD your car you should practice the heel-toe down shift at every opportunity until it becomes a subconscious (second nature) behavior. It's actually much harder to do it when not at speed and hard on the brakes, so if you can get it on the street it will be awesome during autocross. If you don't DD your car well then just practice as much as you can off course.
I wish the rest of my driving was as good as my heel-toe down shifts!
I wish the rest of my driving was as good as my heel-toe down shifts!
Originally Posted by Random1,Jul 9 2010, 07:05 PM
Dave, if you DD your car you should practice the heel-toe down shift at every opportunity until it becomes a subconscious (second nature) behavior. It's actually much harder to do it when not at speed and hard on the brakes, so if you can get it on the street it will be awesome during autocross. If you don't DD your car well then just practice as much as you can off course.
I wish the rest of my driving was as good as my heel-toe down shifts!

I wish the rest of my driving was as good as my heel-toe down shifts!





