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Old Sep 29, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Awesome. You will definitely win if you do that
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianGT,Sep 28 2009, 09:01 PM
aside from heatsoak issues. I was thinking about putting some insulation around it.
Most of the local guys have knocked all the baffles out, used an 03 Cobra K&N air filter and covered the airbox in aluminum tape inside and out. One of the local shops has a Dyno Dynamics 4wd dyno, and one of the techs there ran his AP1 back to back with an modified airbox and a modded one, and claimed ~3hp above 6000rpm.

I have a hard time believing that the increase in filter element area and the minor decrease in airbox volume could have made any significant power difference at all, but.....
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNick,Sep 29 2009, 12:19 PM
Awesome. You will definitely win if you do that
I take that as sarcassum? hahaha I have to run with people like marc and dave. I have no chance of ever winning. I just want to do it for the fun and gain of driving skills.
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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You can't run a test pipe in ST. Your emissions systems have to all function.
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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All I know is that when I went from the stock box to the K&N FIPK - I had to start planning for the cam crossover because the balance of the car would significantly change as it came on cam. This was especially hard mid-slalom.

Now that I've lowered the crossover - this scenario is completely gone
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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^^ hmm.. that is interesting. Do you have any before / after dyno plots? It doesn't seem like an intake is really a bang-for-buck mod for this class when people are claiming 1-3 hp gains, but what you're saying argues otherwise.

Awesome. You will definitely win if you do that
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 03:09 PM
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I didn't claim that it made more power. I just said the crossover had a significant change in dynamic balance of the car when the intake was installed.

I'm not claiming to be making more power with the lower VTEC point either - just thats its a hell of a lot easier to drive this way.
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by vehicular,Sep 29 2009, 01:49 PM
You can't run a test pipe in ST. Your emissions systems have to all function.
I thought i read in the rules that you can change out the cat? which to me would mean you can run a test pipe with a cel fix?
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by josh7owens,Sep 29 2009, 03:13 PM
I thought i read in the rules that you can change out the cat? which to me would mean you can run a test pipe with a cel fix?
Please read the rules again... since I happen to have them open I'll copy/paste this for you.

E. Catalytic Converters ST, STS:
Catalytic converters may be replaced by aftermarket units. Replacements must:
1) Be certified for use in that vehicle application by the manufacturer or reconditioner,
2) Bear correct EPA-mandated labeling,
3) Be of the OE quantity and type (i.e. oxidation, three-way, etc.) and
4) Be used in the same location(s) as the OE converter(s).
This does allow for high performance replacements, provided they meet all restrictions herein.

you cannot tamper with the emissions system at all so no CEL fix or O2 fowlers allowed.
Old Sep 29, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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oo well. but you can run a header can't you?



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