S2000 STR prep resource
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From: Tucson
IIRC (please confirm), the Comptech FSB uses the stock endlinks and is likely stiffer than the Saner bar. This is based on something I read several years ago, and my memory sux. 
BTW, while you are ordering parts, I suggest ordering spare endlinks and brackets and take them to the events with you. I broke both of these before.
Sorry to hear about your problem right before a big event. Good luck!
-Dave
BTW, while you are ordering parts, I suggest ordering spare endlinks and brackets and take them to the events with you. I broke both of these before.
Sorry to hear about your problem right before a big event. Good luck!
-Dave
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From: Frankfort, KY
Originally Posted by josh7owens' timestamp='1305310398' post='20572770
haha yea, yea. I hear ya.... I would bet the passwordjdm ones weight more then the stock one forreal. lol 
mike, I don't see your name on the blytheville entry list yet, you should go!
mike, I don't see your name on the blytheville entry list yet, you should go!
yup blytheville, june 10-12. http://www.scca.com/event.aspx?hub=3&event=17116
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Originally Posted by ///MIKE' timestamp='1305314558' post='20573111
[quote name='josh7owens' timestamp='1305310398' post='20572770']
haha yea, yea. I hear ya.... I would bet the passwordjdm ones weight more then the stock one forreal. lol
mike, I don't see your name on the blytheville entry list yet, you should go!
haha yea, yea. I hear ya.... I would bet the passwordjdm ones weight more then the stock one forreal. lol
mike, I don't see your name on the blytheville entry list yet, you should go!
yup blytheville, june 10-12. http://www.scca.com/event.aspx?hub=3&event=17116
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Uh... Googled it... "1 Day and 0 Hours Drive Time". Don't think I'll be making that event... Lincoln is far enough!
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From: Marietta, Ga
Originally Posted by marks_lude' timestamp='1305297779' post='20571800
[quote name='scareyourpassenger' timestamp='1305249323' post='20570027']
If that were the case the mugen intake wouldn't perform that much better than stock.
If that were the case the mugen intake wouldn't perform that much better than stock.
1) It is pulling true cold air (from in front of the rad).
2) The front hole looks to be positioned in a nice place where there may be some natural air current. If this current is higher than the flow rate pulled at WOT, then it will create some degree of a pressure head (IE, ram-air). This, like colder air, increases the density -> hp gain.
3) (not verified)... I believe the intake uses a non-OEM filter, which is likely one of the largest differences.
I think the Mugen is a great weight reduction modification, and it's certainly good looking, but not necessarily a better power maker than the stock intake. However, I don't own one... maybe someone who has one can chime in with some Dyno #'s (STR Modified Mugen... not STD mugen...).
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The power difference was measured on a dyno with no forced air from driving and with the hood up. This gives both intakes the same advantage of colder air. I have dunked a non oem filter vs oem and there is a small difference of about 1-1.5 hp.
King motorsports worked with Hondata and saw some very impressive gains from the mugen intake.
Mugen intake tuned my king
Because the mugen isn't legal due to hood modification doesn't negate my original point about airflow. I would love to run the mugen but I am going to play with some alternate ideas using the stock intake. I don't think having two sources for air is the answer.
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The power difference was measured on a dyno with no forced air from driving and with the hood up. This gives both intakes the same advantage of colder air. I have dunked a non oem filter vs oem and there is a small difference of about 1-1.5 hp.
King motorsports worked with Hondata and saw some very impressive gains from the mugen intake.
Mugen intake tuned my king
Because the mugen isn't legal due to hood modification doesn't negate my original point about airflow. I would love to run the mugen but I am going to play with some alternate ideas using the stock intake. I don't think having two sources for air is the answer.
King motorsports worked with Hondata and saw some very impressive gains from the mugen intake.
Mugen intake tuned my king
Because the mugen isn't legal due to hood modification doesn't negate my original point about airflow. I would love to run the mugen but I am going to play with some alternate ideas using the stock intake. I don't think having two sources for air is the answer.
I just bought a K&N FIPK for my s2k. I expect maybe 1hp-2hp out of it…. As long as it doesn’t lose HP, I’ll be happy with the weight reduction.
Looks like this would provide the velocity stack benefit from the Mugen... just for pennies compared to the Mugen price. Not to mention, you could run this directly into that hole on the passenger side fender. **EDIT** Although it looks like the outlet is only 70mm... The stock intake seems to be bigger than that on an s2000. Never mind... just checked 62.5mm. So, this might work perfect... hmmm...
http://www.knfilters.com/universal/apollo.htm
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Well divisionals was an event of mixed emotions.
Day one the car's setup with the forced softer bar setting was horrible. It would not put down power anywhere and I tried to just drive around it but I finished so poorly that I was in a huge hole I would not be able to climb out of. Day 2 I was determined to mess with the shocks and salvage what I could, and it helped immensely. The car was still not as good as it was with the stiff bar, but at least I was able to be within two tenths of the class leaders.
As a whole the competition in day 2 was incredible. The top 5 times in class were all within 2-3 tenths of each other.
Day one the car's setup with the forced softer bar setting was horrible. It would not put down power anywhere and I tried to just drive around it but I finished so poorly that I was in a huge hole I would not be able to climb out of. Day 2 I was determined to mess with the shocks and salvage what I could, and it helped immensely. The car was still not as good as it was with the stiff bar, but at least I was able to be within two tenths of the class leaders.
As a whole the competition in day 2 was incredible. The top 5 times in class were all within 2-3 tenths of each other.
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From: Marietta, Ga
Originally Posted by scareyourpassenger' timestamp='1305321142' post='20573490
The power difference was measured on a dyno with no forced air from driving and with the hood up. This gives both intakes the same advantage of colder air. I have dunked a non oem filter vs oem and there is a small difference of about 1-1.5 hp.
King motorsports worked with Hondata and saw some very impressive gains from the mugen intake.
Mugen intake tuned my king
Because the mugen isn't legal due to hood modification doesn't negate my original point about airflow. I would love to run the mugen but I am going to play with some alternate ideas using the stock intake. I don't think having two sources for air is the answer.
King motorsports worked with Hondata and saw some very impressive gains from the mugen intake.
Mugen intake tuned my king
Because the mugen isn't legal due to hood modification doesn't negate my original point about airflow. I would love to run the mugen but I am going to play with some alternate ideas using the stock intake. I don't think having two sources for air is the answer.
I just bought a K&N FIPK for my s2k. I expect maybe 1hp-2hp out of it…. As long as it doesn’t lose HP, I’ll be happy with the weight reduction.
Looks like this would provide the velocity stack benefit from the Mugen... just for pennies compared to the Mugen price. Not to mention, you could run this directly into that hole on the passenger side fender. **EDIT** Although it looks like the outlet is only 70mm... The stock intake seems to be bigger than that on an s2000. Never mind... just checked 62.5mm. So, this might work perfect... hmmm...
http://www.knfilters.com/universal/apollo.htm
It has more details around the gains and Hondata backed the findings up in another thread.
king intake dyno and test
Also if you look in the modification forum I think that is where the discussion around the puffo passion intake is. The idea behind it is similar to the mugen as to providing a smooth air path to the intake element.
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I forgot to mention this is for a twitchy AP1 not the usual AP2 that most people are running. This weekend the car felt to unpredictable (oversteering) so we are trying to address that problem.